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Jayne's brother

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Friday, September 17, 2004 6:23 AM

Jewel's husband, who goes by the name Matty, asked me a trivia question about the name of Jayne's brother. Sadly, I failed, since I couldn't remember the name, but that would lead me to believe that perhaps Joss & Tim named Jayne's brother "Matty" after Jewel's husband. Just a theory....

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Friday, September 17, 2004 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Okay, I know this is really out of left field and all, but remember, you asked.

I bet that's cause in The Message the letter Jayne gets from his mom says something about "...as Maddie is still sick with the damp lung." Notice how I spelled it? Personally, I think it's a little sister.

What?? Noooo.... I guess it's feasible that that's where I got it. Considering the shooting script reads:

"Thank you for the credits you forwarded, they have helped as MATTY is still sick with the Damplung. HE waves hello, and so does your father. He is in good spirits and there was layoffs but the foreman said no one can weld like a Cobb so he has employment still. I made you the enclosed" --

I guess Haken needs a sarcast-emot-icon or something. Anyway, whether or not they named him after Jewel's then-boyfriend is anyone's guess. Sure sounds reasonable. Now, who was Jayne Cobb named after? (This is actually in one of the writers drafts. Kinda neat trivia, if you like trivia.)

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Friday, September 17, 2004 12:51 PM

I think the idea of Kaylee having an older, protective brother would be great. It would make for a very interesting episode or fan fic.

I don't see Zoe having any siblings.

Wash I could see having a brother, maybe a little younger. He is a hot shot pilot for some private corporate type. His brother wears Hawaiian shirts too and is as funny or funnier than Wash. Maybe in a fan fic he might make a pass at Zoe and wacky fun insues.

Inara might have a younger sister who she is very protective of and sends money to back home. Her sister would be something other than a companion, maybe not as pretty and really self conscious.

Mal? Now Mal I have a good one for him. Mal would have an older brother who fought for the Alliance during the war. This would cause some real interesting fan fic as they have always been at odds with one another and they took opposite sides during the war. They never really resolved any of their issues and haven't spoke since the war. Mal's brother would be charming and try to make a play for Inara. Mal would have a good ol' fashioned fist fight across the cargo hold ending with him admitting his feelings for Inara.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, September 17, 2004 2:02 PM

I see Kaylee having 3 or more brothers, with her being the youngest, and her family being “simple” farmers (kind of like the family in the Wizard of Oz - heh). This would explain her tomboyish nature and her sense of family. Her brothers were very protective of her and Mal is now a surrogate big brother (explains some of the hugs he gives her). The family has a modest farm and just gets by which explains her interest/curiosity for Simon who comes from such a different lifestyle.
AURAPTOR: I agree - if any of her family met Simon they’d probably try and tell her she was nuts, “he’s too fancy - not your type!” Maybe they'd even confront him seperately and try and spook him - or maybe they'd all get drunk together and find out he's ok...

Jayne’ - he and his mom are obviously close, so what turned him into “bad” guy? Maybe he has to steal to send money home as suggested in The Message? Maybe his Dad has “dependancy issues” and can’t hold a job so Jayne has to be the soul provider. He has no schooling so the quickest way to get money is to steal. I imagine his family moving around a lot when he was young, that’s why he tends to be a follower and a bit of a loner. Sal is Jayne’s only older brother, much older, that left home when Jayne was 14 and they never heard from after that, leaving Jayne to be the man of the house. Jayne sees a little of his older brother in Mal.
Or... WALTERPIPP - I like the “Jayne is the youngest of a bunch of brothers idea” - would the family be like the Earps or the Clantons?

Inara - has a sister, they are very close. Dad was a good man in her eyes but he left home (I’m breaking up families left and right) when she was young and her mother is no longer alive (brutal).

Zoe: Dad career military too.

Wash? BROWNCOAT1:

“Wash I could see having a brother, maybe a little younger. He is a hot shot pilot for some private corporate type. His brother wears Hawaiian shirts too and is as funny or funnier than Wash. Maybe in a fan fic he might make a pass at Zoe and wacky fun insues. “
Maybe even a twin?? Too much maybe...

Book? Absolutely no clue!

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Friday, September 17, 2004 4:35 PM

I suspect that Wash is considered a "disappointment" to his father. Perhaps being a pilot was acceptable, but he ran off with the crew of Serenity partly to defy his father. I imagine his father as a man with absolutely no sense of humor, and not very affectionate.

I read something somewhere about the idea of Wash having a lot of conflict with his father, who was played by Clint Eastwood. At the time, I assumed that it was the script for an upcoming episode, but since there is no such script to my knowledge, perhaps it was a review of a fanfic or just some idle speculation.

If Wash did have a father like I've described, he probably was under the most pressure from his dad because he was first born. He probably has a younger brother that Wash's dad is proud of, even though Wash despises him (and perhaps is a bit jealous that his younger brother gets the attention of his father).

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Friday, September 17, 2004 7:04 PM

I could see Jayne with bunch of brothers (some older and younger) and they would be just like Jayne-big, clueless, momma's boys but sell you out for 5 thou'.

Kaylee with two older brothers both mechanics, and love ships.

Zoe, I don't see having any brothers or sisters, just her father- who is missing or died.

I agree with Browncoat1- Wash having a brother, like a twin brother and making a pass at Zoe.

Book and Inara I could see them having either a brother or a sister, or being an only child.

Mal I could see with a borther who's a fed or who died in the war.

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Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:42 AM

Mal's brother is definitely Allliance. It makes him even more hardcore Independance. That brother competition thing - like in the American civil war, a thorn that won't go away.

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Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:25 AM

Hell's Kitten wrote:

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Now, who was Jayne Cobb named after? (This is actually in one of the writers drafts. Kinda neat trivia, if you like trivia.)

Ummm... Mansfield? Guess if that's foreshadowing, then Jayne'll be losing his tater, too.



Just off the top of my head,

zoid

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Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:27 PM

I've posted earlier and elsewhere about Mal's brother being named Bene (or maybe just "Benny"). Bene being Latin for "good," of course.

Bene would have to be evil, of course. And probably real dour & humourless too. Otherwise it just wouldn't be ironical.

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Wash I could see having a brother, maybe a little younger. He is a hot shot pilot for some private corporate type. His brother wears Hawaiian shirts too and is as funny or funnier than Wash.

Played by Gordon Michael Wolvett?

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Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:56 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Okay, I know this is really out of left field and all, but remember, you asked.

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I bet that's cause in The Message the letter Jayne gets from his mom says something about "...as Maddie is still sick with the damp lung." Notice how I spelled it? Personally, I think it's a little sister.

What?? Noooo.... I guess it's feasible that that's where I got it. Considering the shooting script reads:
"Thank you for the credits you forwarded, they have helped as MATTY is still sick with the Damplung. HE waves hello, and so does your father. He is in good spirits and there was layoffs but the foreman said no one can weld like a Cobb so he has employment still. I made you the enclosed" --I guess Haken needs a sarcast-emot-icon or something.



Heh. Yeah, I guess he does. But then again, you have NO IDEA how many discussions I've had along the lines of "for some reason, I just picture Wesley's dad as a total overbearing jackass who's very disappointed in Wes and possibly abusive" where the speaker really thought they'd come up with that on their own. I've learned to be careful on-line about assuming people are being sarcastic.

"Where I come from, we have a saying: "When you yoo-hoo in the forest, the yoo-hoo that you yoo-hoo will come back to you."
"Where did you say you were from again?"

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