J.J. Abrams to direct next "STAR WARS" flick
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UPDATED: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 18:01
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Well, you know there was a writer's strike, right?
Yes, but a director like Abrams has enough say to get some things changed, which he should have. More so because he is a writter. Strike or not in the end the movie that got made was lacking.
So far the only thing that Abrams has been a part of that I really liked was Armageddon.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
If he does the same sort of job on SW that he did on Trek, then I guess that's one more movie I won't bother watching. :)
Then again, he couldn't do much worse than what Lucas did with the last three.
He could only massively improve what Lucas has done since the early 80's, imo.
But when you turn a warehouse into a iconic starship's engine room, and it still LOOKS like a warehouse... color me not so impressed.
I'm hopeful.
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My main complaints against Abrams' Trek has very little to do with the changes to Trek continuity and characters, and almost everything to do with the fact it had a weak script that was poorly acted, no logical character development, and a preponderance of action and flashy CGI to try to hide all its faults.
I'm a semi-Trekkie, not a fanatic about the franchise. I like TOS, most of TNG and DS9. There have been quite a few bad Trek films (and a couple of the series I can do without as well). But Star Trek 2009 was simply a bad movie, period.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Well, you know there was a writer's strike, right?
Yes, but a director like Abrams has enough say to get some things changed, which he should have. More so because he is a writter.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.
No, he chose not to. While it would have pissed off the union he and the writers were members and could have made changes. Thing is the most Abrams has expressed that he wanted to change where some lines. So the overall script that was competed before the strike was what they wanted.
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I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamill and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?
STAR WARS Episode VII: Return of the Fat Old Jedi who is now doing Cartoon Voices for Scale.
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Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?
STAR WARS Episode VII: Return of the Fat Old Jedi who is now doing Cartoon Voices for Scale.
Do you remember the original Star Wars? Obiwan and Darth Vader looked like they were trying to swat flies with desk lamps. An old jedi master doesn't have to be lean and mean. Grant Luke is pretty much a badass in the expanded universe well into old age. I still think they could bring him in to be more of a mentor than an active combatant.
Han Solo is more difficult in that regard. I guess they can still have him pilot the Falcon, but it gets a little ridiculous trying to picture him being an active scoundrel at Harrison Ford's age.
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Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?
Im pretty sure Disney can afford a gym and a few personal trainers, should they decide to use those actors.
And they've already been pretty clear that new characters would be the focus, and anyone showing up from the older films would be smaller roles, so you unpucker.
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Thats not how it works. The script they had when the strike started is what they had to shoot. Making changes was simply not allowed.
No, he chose not to. While it would have pissed off the union he and the writers were members and could have made changes. Thing is the most Abrams has expressed that he wanted to change where some lines. So the overall script that was competed before the strike was what they wanted.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Again, not how it works. Sure, he could have made changes against the stike, and thus been kicked out of the guild, and had the signatory status removed for both his production company and the studio - which then would invalidate writer's contracts on other projects.
Just becuase you *think* he could have - doesn't make it so.
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Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I wonder if this is the Titanic getting ready to set sail for New York, where will the story go from here? Are they going to hire Ford, Hamilton and Fisher to play their old charcters? They're all old and fat, will he recast them?
Im pretty sure Disney can afford a gym and a few personal trainers, should they decide to use those actors.
And they've already been pretty clear that new characters would be the focus, and anyone showing up from the older films would be smaller roles, so you unpucker.
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
New charcters...GREAT IDEA! Jar Jar Binks went over so well
In my opinion (which is always brilliant) Lucas is out of ideas and dumped it, episodes 1 thru 3 have been panned by the hard core fans, If episodes 7 thru 9 look like bland reboots, J.J. and Disney will be skinned.
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