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What do we need to ban as a species to ensure our continued longevity on Earth?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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NIKI2

Friday, January 18, 2013 10:57 PM

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There is no better way you could have identified yourself as a complete f**king idiot than with that.

I'm with Chris.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:28 AM

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Children.

For the next 20 years.

The world would be such a crap place, no one would want to live.

I love the film Children of Men http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/ - it showed the lack of hope in the future that occurs when there are no children to carry on into the future. Mind you, people just stopped being able to reproduce, it was like the species was committing suicide.

I wonder at the idea of banning anything, but I suspect that our continued existence may depend upon us as a species doing the following things

-ending the influence of religion - not having beliefs based on superstition and fairytale guide the governance of us in any way.
-not having a growth based economy. Dunno how you do it, but it will be the end of us if we have to continue to have expansion in order to survive.
-not having so much packaging on our goods
-preserving as many wilderness areas as possible, and that means no mining, farming, daming, fracking or otherwise tinkering with
-ending the concept of nations, patriotism, jingoism. Am I really a better person because I lucked into being born in a safe, warfree, prosperous area of the world? Why should I be prouder of where I live than someone in Tanzanier, Costa Rica, Croatia?

CHRISISALL

Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:25 AM

I love you, MD!

KWICKO

Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:23 AM

Worth a read:

http://newschoolmag.com/2013/01/must-read-life-changing-story-i-talked
-to-god-the-other-day/

It borrows somewhat from Arthur C. Clarke and some others, but it lays out some interesting points.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:10 AM

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-not having so much packaging on our goods

It's the little things, innit ?
Man do I despise those idiotic clamshell packages you need a damn chainsaw to get open, and they make even LESS sense with an online purchase cause there's no threat of shoplifting to excuse it!
Amazon has made some in-roads on trying to reduce packaging, and I myself have thrown in my tiny little bit - I keep the boxes, you see, storing them in the room next to my washer in the interm to help soak up the noise that thing makes, until I need to ship something, and then re-use them after stripping the labels.

Sure, it's not much, but it's something, and something *I* can do, innit ?

-F

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:21 PM

Nearly anything I've ever been pissed off about, Larry David covered in Seinfeld or his own self-gratifying awesomeness....

Even my bro who loved Seinfeld can't watch this show. It takes a certain level of curmudgeon to survive 7 seasons of this show.....

AURAPTOR

Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:58 PM

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If you ban ignorance you'll become a Republican.

Yup, nothing says "smarts" like dealing with sea-level rise by outlawing any mention of sea-level rise!

The cavemen who lived in Cosquer caves 27,000 years ago say "hi".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosquer_Cave

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

NIKI2

Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:05 PM

Me, too, Magons. That was excellently put, and covered all of the things I, at least, would like to ban. But that's just me.

P.S. I loved Children of Men, too, but unlike most other films I both enjoyed and respected, I wouldn't choose to see it twice. I guess that speaks to your statement about "it showed the lack of hope in the future that occurs when there are no children to carry on into the future."

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:27 PM

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The world would be such a crap place, no one would want to live. I love the film Children of Men http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/ - it showed the lack of hope in the future that occurs when there are no children to carry on into the future.

Hope.

So highly overrated. Everyone thinks it's a "good" thing, but having just been involved in a long discussion with hubby and others about "hope", I have come to the dark side on it. I think the comedian, Dick Gregory expressed my opinion best in a recent interview. He was protesting, and the interviewer asked him what gives you HOPE?.

He just looked at her as if she were a simpleton, somewhere between bemused and disgusted and said (49:30 min)

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I don't believe in HOPE....We got in outer space, it wasn't hope... If I had a brain tumor, I don't "hope" it's gonna get out, I'm gonna ask 'Who's the best brain surgeon here?' and I'll go to him

(This is a one hour news broadcast, so go to 49:30 for the full comment on "hope")

If I saw that people were actually taking EFFECTIVE measures for survival ... planning for this generation and the next one and the next one after that and putting their asses into it, hard as it will be ... THAT is a positive sign. But "hope" is not an effective measure; it's just wishful thinking, a way to devolve the responsibility for DOING SOMETHING about the clusterfuck that we are leaving for our children onto... I dunno... spirits. The universe. Chance. Anything else except the people who caused it in the first place.

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Mind you, people just stopped being able to reproduce, it was like the species was committing suicide.

It would be the best for the human species thing since the taming of clay and the development of writing. And if it were done voluntarily, it would be a sign that humans are actually an intelligent species.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:54 PM

*sends Signy a virtual hug*