Guns, Guns, Guns.
POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Monday, June 30, 2025 05:56
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence - economic, political, even spiritual - is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office in the federal government. We must guard against the aquisition of unwarranted influence - whether sought or unsought - by the military-industrial complex. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes." ... President Eisenhower
"Fascism baby." ... Willie O'Keefe
Ummmmm, so you DO or DON'T own a gat?
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Couple of chickens and cows, no goats.
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Quote:Punk reply, yo.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Couple of chickens and cows, no goats.
Are you weaponized or not?
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Does my Slingo slingshot count? I got it at Mr. Drucker's store back in '65.
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I hope more people like you post - not just here but everywhere. You do a great job showing everyone how bankrupt your 'cold, dead hands' rhetoric is, how disposable even little children are to the promotion of your agenda, how ignorant your are of history, and how irrelevant you are to an intelligent, self-determining society. You'd rather have guns than have society exercise actual working freedom to decide what it wants. You'd rather have guns than safe children. Got it. So keep at it. You're doing a great job.
ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!
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You hav an internal conflict, Frem.
You arent a mindless idealog, so at least subconciously, you know that you hav a share of the blame for all the gun deths and injuries going on.
If there wasn't such a big market for gunz, they woudnt be so eazily available, providing anybody with a working hand with the power to kill from a distance.
You are suppressing feelingz uv gilt for Fridayz massacr.
My segjestion iz to face up to it. Accept the responsibility and either continue to bare it or destroy your gunz.
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I wish more than anything that the Principal's aide in that office had been able to pull a pistol out of her purse...
Yeah, like Cagney and Lacey used to. Which one was the pretty one again? Better still, let's just give every first-grader a bazooka to keep under their desk.
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That quote from Eisenhower always kills me. Here he said it, plain as day, to the entire nation, and what did we up and do anyway? Epic failsaucexorx!1!
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Quote:Such freedom is absolutely relative because there's always someone bigger and meaner and better armed than you. If might makes freedom then only the mighty even have a chance of being free. This kind of thinking is so freakin' primitive, so psuedo-Darwinian. You are speaking nonsense. You are speaking Yang Worship Words.
Originally posted by bigdamngrizzlybear:
I believe all the way down to my soul, that the only free person is someone who can defend that freedom with his own hands.
What do you mean by "defend?" Do you mean you can kill in defense of your liberty? Plenty of people can kill a person, happens all the time. I was a few months away from my black belt in kung fu when I had to leave my dojo after a scandal. I could, at the time (I'm thoroughly rusty these days, but I still know how to breath, that I will never lose), defend myself against a lot of physical assaults and I could disable a person any number of ways. Once the other person was disabled I certainly would have been physically capable of killing that person, abhorrent as the idea is to me. Is that what freedom is to you? The ability to kill? And I understand the sense of freedom martial training gives a person, the courage it plants in you, but this bollywog that you believe down to your toes as the "facts" is simply not real or reasonable. By your weirdass definition no one in the world has ever been free, 'cept maybe who? Genghis Khan?
You and Frem and Anthony all seem to cherish this romance of freedom that your guns bestow. It's simply not true. Your freedoms, your rights are granted to you by every living soul you come into contact with every day. We all have the power to interfer with another's rights, but we humans, for the most part, don't. I experienced nothing but freedom today.
What gets me is that I'm not at all interested in taking your guns away. I think you do have a right to them. I just think you guys have the wackiest way of thinking about it and it's not a little worrisome. Seriously.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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TONY
Quote:Hmmm, well, I respectfully disagree with love and respect being the answer to all human dysfunction. About 1% of the population is schizophrenic pretty much everywhere in the world, and autism seems to be accelerating. Some things are biologically-based. For (2), I think that respect will solve generalized violence pretty well. On the other hand it's pretty hard to tell someone that they are valuable and that they are cared for when they have to compete tooth-and-nail for some sub-menial job that pays like shit, and be grateful for it. In order to make THAT message real, you'd have to create an entire alternate economy.
I must once again emphasize that Frem's philosophy of teaching empathy and compassion while protecting our young and helping them to prosper will encourage a reduction in 1 and 2. A population infused with love isn't generally going batshit crazy and looking to murder people.
I don't know about 3. Three is basically what people have been trying to solve for hundreds of years.
GEEZER
Quote:And who, exactly, has suggested this besides you??? Seems you have some pretty serious issues in realizing that mental illness exists.
So how about mental health evaluations of everyone in the U.S. when they turn, say, 14? Anyone who fails gets sent to the reservation until they're better. Also random checks that'd re-test everyone every 3 or 4 years. Everyone who's ever failed gets a shock collar and everyone else gets a controller, so if the nutcase starts to act up, they can be safely tasered.
We need to address mental illness, and not fatuously like you just did. Opening the doors of the mental institutions, kicking the mentally ill out on the street, pretending that mental illness is all just an anti-freedom conspiracy by salary-sucking doctors, and using our jails as de facto human warehouses a la Ronnie Raygun has not exactly been a stellar success, has it? Our system of mental health... if one could call it that... is so dysfunctional that it can't even respond to an imminent threat. So we get the Aurora/ Gifford/ Columbine/ Virginia Tech shootings.
Yeah, way to go, geezer. You get some kind of prize; I'm just not sure what kind.
FREM: Didn't mean to light your fuse.What's going on?
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