Did Simon Lie ?
POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 06:24
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Good analogy. But if ENOUGH data were collected, I think at the very least you could put forth and test theories.
With love or with ESP! 
The Real Me
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And River's comments in Ariel about them stealing Christmas may have meant that she could no longer have the joy of being surprised by the presents because she could not avoid knowing what they are.
I'm finding this whole discussion very interesting
The christmas thing in Ariel wasn't about River..it was about Jayne.. it was Jayne who got Christmas taken away from him...she was either reading his mind or reading him and seeing something from his past...
If anyone is intrested in this sort of thing read a book called
Past Lived Future Lives by Jenny Cockell...
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Hmmmm.
I haven't the tools to aptly describe the amount of sympathy for River. I have a sort of empathy, nothing psychic or mindreading, but enough to sense how someone is feeling at that time, and often find myself feeling the same way. Generally, it's limited to touching someone-skin to skin contact. But when it's a large group, it sometimes projects into a turrent of emotion. I have often passed out in the middle of a crowd, in such simple settings as a bus or the middle of a street, and woken up in a hospital. My doctors have given several different theories on the matter-stress, overactivity of my nueral system. Psychotherapists attribute it to a sort of "mob claustriphobia," which is a way of saying, "You're afraid of a sea of people."
I have seen African shamans of every degree, I've met with cardinals in Rome, I've visited varying Wicca practitioners. All of them have an answer for my Sixth Sense. None of them agree with one another.
I've never dreamed out prophesies, I don't cast spells, I was never a strong believer in any church. I stopped taking any pills that should have helped, and I got tired of talking with the counselor. So I've accepted the fact that what I have, no one seems to give me a good answer. Nobody understands why sometimes, I'm just as paternal as they are, or why when I'm with anyone I don't seem to be the same person as someone else. But it's mine to bear. I define it as empathy. And that's good enough for me.
We can't all be heroes, since some of us have to sit at the curb and clap as they go by.
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And River's comments in Ariel about them stealing Christmas may have meant that she could no longer have the joy of being surprised by the presents because she could not avoid knowing what they are.
I'm finding this whole discussion very interesting
The christmas thing in Ariel wasn't about River..it was about Jayne.. it was Jayne who got Christmas taken away from him...she was either reading his mind or reading him and seeing something from his past...
If anyone is intrested in this sort of thing read a book called
Past Lived Future Lives by Jenny Cockell...
There is a fellow on the Serenity board calling himself "The Almanac" who has compiled a timeline of the Firefly 'Verse (quite a scholarly effort) and he calculates that Ariel occurs in the middle of December 2517. The comment about Christmas being taken away might just be about the real Christmas.
The Real Me
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Sorry, RWW. That sounds pretty rough.
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Hey Raven,
Thanks for posting. It can be tough posting that kind of information online. I too have found it hard to find poeple who really want to know me and not just tell me who I am (quite a big difference there). So many poeple want to diagnose something that doesn't need diagnosing.
Sounds to me like all those folks you talked to needed to have their horizons broadened and you helped to do that. I get the sense you were called to teach them more than the other way around.
Anyway, it's funny coming at Firefly with an orientation like yours or mine. Most folks have to work to get their minds around what River is, but my feeling was more along the lines of "Hmm, there's one of us on this show. Great! I hope they get it right..."
Anyway, there sure ain't no owner's manual for a gift like yours. I'm so glad to hear you've come to accept it.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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