What DON'T you want to see in Serenity?
POSTED BY: ShinyDude
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 06:51
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Originally posted by Littlemanlovesfire:
HOW COULD HE? Babies never, ever die in film or TV (that I've ever seen at least) - it's just too horrible to think about. No-one else would dare touch it. But sadly, it happens in life. Life goes on, and that fallout is what he likes to explore.
Babies never die? Did you ever see the movie Trainspotting?
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Originally posted by witlesschum:
What if Whedon reads all the things people don't want and then does them?
:::clears throat, speaks loudly::::
Boy, I sure wouldn't want to see Mal and Jayne get into a fist-fight in mud with no shirts on. That'd be just terrible and also sexist which is really offensive to people and we sure don't want to get anyone offended!
:::snicker::::
Eomer: "Hi! Stop me if you've heard this one ...an elf, a dwarf, and a man walk into the Riddermark..."
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I don't see what the problem with the fire hose thing is. Fire hoses have been used in real life to take care of rioters and the like. Granted, a hose that can be operated by one person isn't going to have quite as much pressure, but it should still be enough to trip somebody up. A legitimate tactic of desperation... so what's the problem?
I have only two problems with the HoG shootout. One is that Mal is indeed able to catch a hovercraft on a horse. That's a pretty crappy hovercraft. The other is that the visual effects, usually so wonderfully realistic (the spaceship shots had RACK FOCUSES, people!), were fantastically lousy and conventional in handling the laser. They succumbed to the sci-fi fallacy of the laser as bolt weapon rather than beam weapon. It works the right way when he attacks the house-- sweeping across an area and setting fire to it. You can see the beam, but I accept that as a narrative device. When he shoots at Mal, though, you can clearly see a coherent "bolt" of light shoot past Mal, and I rather thought Firefly was above that kind of crap.
Of course, one time I accidentally tuned into Andromeda and saw lasers being realistically depicted... as, y'know, little twinkly lights. It looked soooo stupid. Honesty is not always the best policy in these things, I suppose.
Overall, though, I love the shoot-out in HoG 'cause it's incredibly well-edited. You see a bad guy fire and then a bullet crack past Mal's head, then Mal fires and a bad guy gets hit... you can clearly follow the action all through it (except everyone I've shown it to thinks Burgess has the baby in the hovercraft).
My other problem with HoG is WHY DON'T THEY FREAKIN' LOCK THE SHIP??? There's no way it should be that easy for people to get aboard. And if it wasn't easy, I want to see how they did it or get some acknowledgement that this is an unusual occurrence. 'Cause damn. That seems like a bad thing.
I also take issue with whoever said that Book is a sympathetically portrayed religious man. He may pass for one in the Whedonverse, but he doesn't quite do it in my book. As I've maintained in other threads, his deepest beliefs are made the subject of jokes in a way that nobody else's are, even Jayne. I don't want to get into the "religion: good or bad?" debate here, 'cause I've got no interest in it, but I do think Whedon's distaste for religion permeates Book's character, and it really bugs me. Now, to Whedon's credit, Book's handled a lot better than he might be, but he falls short of the complexity of the other characters. The portrayal of Book is the one true flaw I find in Firefly.
Mmmkay, enough gripes and nitpicks. I love the show, I'm confident I'll love the movie, and I truly do trust that Joss knows what he's doing and will deliver the straight goods-- even, and perhaps especially, if he's willing to make the tough choices that will make us all cry.
Definitely going to bring tissues to the theatre... just in case.
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In reply to original question posed by the thread: "What DON'T you want to see in Serenity?"
The End. Ever.
And riffing on Ankh-a-go-go's response:
I never want to see the entire female cast bathing nude in a mountain pool, complete with waterfall. Seeing Inara or YoSafBridge nekkid would ruin their mystique. Feminine sexual charms are best left to the imagination.
Archly,
zoid
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There's only one thing I don't want to see in Serenity....THE END
"...we're still flyin'."
"That's not much."
"It's enough." Malcolm Reynolds and Simon Tam - Serenity
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Originally posted by Daikath:
The shoto out with Patience was cool excerpt for a moment in the middle wherein all of Patience's men plainly missed Mal and Zoe while Mal and Zoe got them all at once. Sure they were caught off-guard by Jayne's snipershot but the moment after that was just fake when they should have been ready to shoot and still outnumbered Mal and Zoe they still missed.
Heart of Gold also had a guy on a hovercraft with a special lasergun with special aiming abilities missing a guy on a horse, right before the batterys were dead...
Sorry I think Firefly is the best tvshow ever but that was just fake.
Have to agree. Firefly is full of mistakes, but for the most part they're mistakes made by the directors. I get mad @the directors for making them, but the core of the show -- characters, actors, stories, writing -- is so good, it more than makes up for the flaws. Firefly is somehow much more than the sum of its parts.
Keep the Shiny Side Up
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Originally posted by ShinyDude:
So what else would people hope is not covered in the movie? Or at least the first one?
I myself am hoping that Book is not all explained. There is plenty of stuff about Mal/Inara, River/Simon/Blue Sun, Kaylee/Simon, etc to fill plenty of screen time. I think if they tried to answer all our questions it would just seem rushed. And me personally, I like a bit of mystery about some characters (think - Reavers). Sometimes it's a bit more fun to guess and speculate about things and having them all laid out in front of you is a bit of a let down.
Lotsa folks have replied that they don't want to see Book explained, nor River, nor Inara. I ain't worried, 'cause I have faith in Joss. I believe he'll explain @least two of them, but when we see it, we'll realize the explanation just leaves us with more to wonder about.
Keep the Shiny Side Up
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Cal said..
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WTF!
I loved the shootout with Patience. Especially when Mal shoots the horse on to her.
I thought the Heart of Gold shoot-out was pretty good too except when Book was hosing baddies with the garden hose or when Mal caught the high tech hovercraft with his horse..
I think there's a reason for this, of sorts, only a theory, mind - but it fits the facts well.
I bet Joss was a fan of the A-team.
Ariel is a *definate* nod in that style, as is some of the bits in HoG, our show just wouldn't be what it is without just a wee little bit of "cheese factor" anyhow.
-F
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Originally posted by Daikath:
The shoot out with Patience was cool excerpt for a moment in the middle wherein all of Patience's men plainly missed Mal and Zoe while Mal and Zoe got them all at once. Sure they were caught off-guard by Jayne's snipershot but the moment after that was just fake when they should have been ready to shoot and still outnumbered Mal and Zoe they still missed.
Obviously you're misremembering. Zoe caught a round full in the chest, which she survived only because she had body armor on. Mal caught a round in the arm, as well.
Besides, some people are just born lucky or cool-headed that way. Look at Wyatt Earp -- despite the infamous shootout at the O.K. Corral, despite all the danger he thrust himself into as a U.S. Marshal, he never ever got hit by a bullet.
Now, I freely admit that the battle in Heart of Gold was cheesy. That's why, personally, I rank it as one of the worst Firefly eps, even though outside of that comparison it's still pretty solid compared to the rest of what's on TV. But the gunfight with Patience doesn't even come close to that.
Anyways. In regards to what I don't want to see...?
I don't want to see Mal and Inara get together. I like that they're constantly sparring with each other, that there's this acknowledged attraction between the two of them that both of them believe will never be consummated.
"Sir, I would like to gingerly point out that it is difficult for someone to be gently reassuring when they're holding three and a half feet of sharpened steel."
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Fremdfirma wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 2004 13:57
I bet Joss was a fan of the A-team.
Ariel is a *definate* nod in that style, as is some of the bits in HoG, our show just wouldn't be what it is without just a wee little bit of "cheese factor" anyhow.
I remember liking Dwight Shultz the best. Anyone remember the episode when he was singing Roxanne?
wow... I musta been around 10 at that time... where do the years go?
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