Meanwhile, as usual in Israel...heeeeere we go again
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 11, 2026 00:13
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Rockets pound Israel, Gaza as Netanyahu alleges 'double war crime'
Rockets and shells crisscrossed the skies over southern Israel and Gaza on Thursday as Palestinian militants continued rocket attacks on Israeli civilians and Israel pounded what it called terror sites.
Israel reported three people killed. Hamas said 13 Palestinians were killed, but gave conflicting information as to how many of them were Hamas militants.
At least 245 rockets from Gaza have been fired into Israel since "Operation Pillar of Defense" began Wednesday, the Israeli military said. Israel's Iron Dome defense system has intercepted more than 80, the Israel Defense Forces said.
Israel has targeted more than 200 "terror sites" in Gaza, "severely damaging the capabilities of Palestinian terrorist organizations," the IDF said. The military said it targeted scores of "medium and long range rocket launch and infrastructure sites across the Gaza Strip."Much, much more at http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/meast/gaza-israel-strike/index.htm
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Somebody needs to take these two out behind the woodshed and spank the SHIT out of them. Certainly not encourage one side, as in my opinion America does...
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Hello,
The less we get involved with that mess, the better. I think the U.S. is one major problem preventing those gents from properly sorting out their shit.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
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Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
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Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
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“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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What *I* do not understand is how any of them Likudnik bastards dare propose the idea with a straight face that they got some kinda divine right to fire fekkin artillery into someone elses country, and act like it's all okay, then scream, whine, throw a tantrum and call it an "act of war" when they shoot back ?!
What the fuck, man ?
Sweet bleedin jeepers, could you IMAGINE what we'd do if say, Cuba shelled Florida ?
Just, I dunno even how to SAY it, the entitlement, the arrogance, to think they got some kinda free pass to do something like that, to just.. arbitrarily shell neighboring countries without so much as a how-do-you-do, that's freakin MADNESS, especially when they expect, no, demand, that said country just lay down and take it ?!
*shaking head*
And just how much of it is escalation intended to draw us into it, or throwing a tantrum cause of being spurned by the current administration, I wonder...
Again, merits to leaving the hell alone - we should make it ABUNDANTLY clear to everyone, everywhere, that we're not gonna get rooked into backing their aggression and protecting them from the inevitable results of their malicious stupidity this time...
And then THAT problem will solve itself, one way or another.
-Frem
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I see our I'm-not-a-right-winger Geezer and resident crazy person have put up threads about this--apparently mine wasn't good enough. Fair enough.
My question would be "who started this shit?"--Israel keeps saying they have a "right" to defend themselves, but that rings pretty hollow when it starts right out with "Hamas commander killed in air attack." As to it becoming WWIII and Egypt getting involved and all, I agree with Jong: Quote:
i wouldn't expect Egypt to get directly involved now. They get more status and talking points by sitting back and letting Israel do their normal overkill. After the likely Israeli incursion the Muslim Brotherhood Govt. can rally more support from more moderate states.
I'm not sure anyone in the Middle East is stupid enough to contemplate an all-out war...except maybe Israel. Maybe if we stopped bowing and scraping to them, they might be more hesitant to act like playground bullies.
In fact, worse than playground bullies. If ANY other country behaved as Israel has behaved for years now, we'd label them a terrorist state or invade or something. They've commited almost every crime imaginable, essentially destroying a neighboring country in about a hundred different ways, from the more well-known ones to beatings, intimidation and humiliation of children ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/26/ israeli-soldiers-mistreatment-palestinian-children) to their siege of Gaza (caled "inhuman and incompatible with international law by the UN and international community: - http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/ israel-threatens-aid-ship-seeking-to-deliver-food-to-gaza), to violence against the Palestinain population (too many to cite, but I'll start with some human-rights violations detailed at http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012- israeloccupied-palestinian-territories), to the blockade ( http://www.cnn.com /2012/10/20/world/meast/gaza-ship/index.html), to the violence perpetrated by their Israeli-backed settlers against those in Gaza (check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Settler_violence) to to destroying Palestinian water wells ( http://www.americantaskforce.org/daily_news_article/2012/10/24/local_ official_israel_destroys_5_water_wells_jenin andhttp:// www.americantaskforce.org/daily_news_article/2012/08/06/gaza_water _increasingly_polluted_and_expensive and "Israel allocates 70 times more water to each settler than to the average Palestinian in the West Bank" - http://www.americantaskforce.org/daily_news_article/2012/07/30/ attili_israeli_settlers_draining_palestinian_water_supply - I mean seriously!). Israel has behaved like an ugly overlord with our help, and has made any peace process more impossible than Hamas or any other group. Maybe if they'd stop (which THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELIS WANT), something could change. As it is: Not so much.
The entire world knows how horrible this situation is, how Israel has persecuted the Palestinians and attempted to crush them, and how only America bows and scrapes to them and HELPS them continue their war. Until and unless we stand up to them, the horrors will continue. That's my opinion on the matter.
(ETA: I had to break up most of those links so the text would wrap, so just remove the "space" in the middle of the cite to go to the link. I encourage you to do so; if enough Americans were educated about what's going on--which you'll rarely hear about from our media--maybe we could demand our country stop supporting these bastards.)
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Yes, because if some group were firing mortars and rockets at San Diego from Mexico we'd just sit around and sing Kumbaya until they stopped.
We wouldn't. It's ridiculous to expect someone to sit around and let themselves be attacked without retaliating.
History shows that the British barely had time to get out of Israel back in 1947 before the Arabs were attacking. Every war Israel has been involved in they have either been attacked or provoked. Technically, the indiscriminate shelling of civilians is a war crime, and as such Israel can stage a reprisal. It could also be argued that Hamas are illegal combatants and can be executed upon capture. According to the rules of war, Israel is actually showing quite a bit of restraint.
Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I see our I'm-not-a-right-winger Geezer and resident crazy person have put up threads about this--apparently mine wasn't good enough. Fair enough.
Get over yourself, Niki. I dodn't see your post. It happens.
ETA: Doing a little checking, I see the first post in my Israel-Gaza thread was at 3:48 AM today, whatever timezone Haken is in. Your's was at 8:23 AM today, almost 4.5 hours later.
No need to apologize. Happens all the time.
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Well them to continue the discussion in the obviously longer thread, I will re-post what I posted under Geezer's.
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This is a war of choice. Netanyahu made a huge stink about Iran, but didn't get a hearing in the Obama WH. So he took his dog-and-pony show on the road, went to the UN and got laughed at. He made the fatal mistake of backing Romney.
There he is- facing election, with no war to jazz up the population and little backing from the USA. Since his Iran balloon deflated, he's had to find another dog to kick. Hence, Gaza. This is just like Reagan invading Grenada, and Thatcher picking a war in the Falklands. Gaza just happened to be there.
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Barak was asked about speculations that the Gaza operation, launched 67 days before the Israeli general election, was politically motivated. Someone reminded him that before Operation Cast Lead, on the eve of the 2009 election, public opinion polls were predicting that Labor, under his leadership, would get between six and eight Knesset seats. Immediately after the operation, which as defense minister Barak conducted, his popularity soared and the polls predicted 15 or 16 Knesset seats for Labor. In the end the party got 13.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/netanyahu-s-election-rivals-can-t
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Of course, Netanyahu denies this is a political war.
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I will also once again link the video of the Israeli Defense Force(IDF) sniping at unarmed farmers for fun... farmers who are doing nothing more than harvesting parsley. I urge you to watch... it is incredibly ugly, and we support it with our tax dollars.
Israel has created the largest open-air prison in the world. It's like the Warsaw ghetto, only bigger.
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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Yes, because if some group were firing mortars and rockets at San Diego from Mexico we'd just sit around and sing Kumbaya until they stopped.
We wouldn't. It's ridiculous to expect someone to sit around and let themselves be attacked without retaliating.
But breaking the cease-fire with an assasination is a-okay? Sure, if that happened with us, we'd send flowers, right??
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Yes, because if some group were firing mortars and rockets at San Diego from Mexico we'd just sit around and sing Kumbaya until they stopped.
As Story pointed out, the "mortar" was fired by ISRAEL, so by the above logic (snark), Palestine had every right to retaliate.Quote:
About 4 p.m. Jabari, who is not usually seen in public, permitted himself to venture out from his hideout and enter his car with a bodyguard. An Israeli aircraft, perhaps a drone, was waiting overhead. Its camera showed the car passing a bus. As it entered a broad intersection, it was hit by a rocket that blew the car apart and killed its occupants.
The assassination was a signal to begin the attack on the rocket arsenals. Israeli warplanes swarmed over the strip, striking some 200 targets in the next 24 hours. ?
First priority went to attacking the mid-distance Fajr rockets capable of hitting the ?Tel Aviv metropolitan area – a strategic weapon Hamas has not yet resorted to. Israeli officials say they believe almost all the Fajr missile arsenals have been hit.
Within a few hours, arsenals that had taken many months, if not years, to build up, were destroyed. However, thousands of shorter-range rockets remain and these are being fired in intense volleys.
Hamas operatives, stunned at the assassination of Jabari, had reason to be even more stunned at the targeting of the rocket storage areas, which revealed the depth to which they had been penetrated by Israeli intelligence.
Yeah, Palestine should just "sit around and sing Kumbaya". Right.
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Israel has created the largest open-air prison in the world. It's like the Warsaw ghetto, only bigger.
is absolutely, positively TRUE. Israel has utilized it's "victim" status to create what we in America would decry from the mountain tops--AS THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES--if we weren't so deluded by propaganda. If enough Americans had the balls and brains to LEARN what is going on, and has been for a very, very long time, we'd rise up in revolt...and Obama would have cover to reduce our support of Israel's atrocities, which I have a feeling he would do if it were possible.
GET REAL folks; learn the truth, use your brains, THEN start babbling about who's right and wrong, rather than just parroting what you've been told.
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I see Israel is gearing up for a potential ground assault. What fun...and of course, grouse tho' we may, we'll be right behind them...
Shameful.
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