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Resignation of CIA Director

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 5:50 PM

Hello,

I've been reading about this resignation, and I'm having trouble understanding it. I have no love for the intelligence agencies, but I don't get why he is resigning.

What do his relations with his wife or other women have to do with his job? Most particularly if his job involves organizing professional liars and sneaks whose purpose it is to snoop around?

Of all the reasons to resign from a job, this one baffles.

--Anthony

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 5:53 PM

Best guess I'm hearing is that there's more to it, that something beyond just the affair was close to coming out, so he got the jump on it by resigning. We may never know, or more may come out. Time will tell.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:23 PM

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:43 PM

I mean, yeah, clearly. Any reason the head of the CIA is gonna give for his resignation is all but guaranteed to be cover, right? Look at the timing! Is Obama cleaning house now that he's not gonna be held accountable? Obama's had a problem with the Pentagon and the CIA since before he was elected. He's had to compromise to the point of moral failure with these agencies. Now that they can't hold his career as President over his head anymore, he's gonna get rid of some folk. No?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:57 PM

Generally speaking, extramarital affairs are bad business for the intel community because it ostensibly opens up said individuals for blackmail.

So historically, such affairs generally lead to the person being removed (voluntarily or otherwise) from the intel community.

That said, he came out with it, so there's something more to it that doesn't track.

The FBI was investigating a writer working on Petraeus's biography, supposedly for trying to get into his personal e-mails (according to the sources, anyway), which would be a big no-no. Speculation is that this is the person he was having the affair with, and they were trying to use that access to him to gain access to his personal accounts and thereby to classified info.

That's a big no-no in the intelligence services - letting yourself be played and duped like that.

So that's one part of it.

Then there's the whole Benghazi thing, which has some in CIA leaving the administration hanging out in the wind, and vice-versa. So while Petraeus's affair WOULD normally be enough to cost him his job, this just makes it even more convenient, because he can be the ceremonial fall guy for the whole clusterfuck.

So CIA may have been looking for someone internally to take the fall, fall on his sword, etc. (they don't like hiring from without, and having him forced on them as their new head rankled some, or so it's said), while the administration may have been looking to make some changes for other reasons. And then Petraeus comes in with a confession of an affair, and gives everybody all the reason they need, and they manage to wrap up several issues at once, with only one body, so to speak.



At least that's how I'm reading it.



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Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:02 PM

And Mike wins. /thread over

Excellent analysis

HKCavalier

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Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Then there's the whole Benghazi thing, which has some in CIA leaving the administration hanging out in the wind, and vice-versa. So while Petraeus's affair WOULD normally be enough to cost him his job, this just makes it even more convenient, because he can be the ceremonial fall guy for the whole clusterfuck.



So I was wrong.

It wasn't some mid-level schmucks ready for retirement taking the rap for Benghazi (although I expect there will be some after the Senate Intel Committee hearings, a la Fast 'n Furious), but the top guy leaving under a different cloud so there's no high-level folk to pin blame on. Convenient that this didn't come out a week ago. Pretty lucky timing, eh?

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:07 AM

Lucky for everyone except Petraeus, it would seem.

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:49 AM


The main thing to consider is ...

Will it make a good movie?

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OK --NM that!

It this good for people?
Will Obama's administration be more effective?

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

It this good for people?
Will Obama's administration be more effective?


N/A, and not really.

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