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Solidarity and Hate.

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 04:07
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Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:08 PM


Yanno, all too often I seem to wind up backing or supporting folks I downright despise, often in the face of folks who've wound themselves up into a lynch mob despite espoused beliefs in the rule of law and civil rights, like they'll make an exception for this, and it wouldn't then transgress almost immediately into "rights for ME and none for THEE", as it always does...

I mean, I flat out hated the FLDS just so you know, not only are they (gag, hack, spit) Christians, but a bizarre subsect of them with creepyass and immoral (to ME, not necessarily you, remember I have my own belief system and morality which has little to do with yours) practices, but there were a bunch of religious jerks having their rights stomped on, and no one else seemed willing to stand up for them.

Not to mention just how MUCH it disgusts me to stand up for the Free Speech rights of that absolute motherfucker Fred Phelps and his punkass bitches from Westboro, but you let that shit slide when they go after the low-hanging fruit, sooner or later that chicken comes home to roost on YOU.

Which brings us to my point of this - The Hutaree Militia.

To say that I dislike them would be a pretty damn solid understatement, there's at least one of them I firmly believe OUGHT to be at least mentally evaluated if not locked up as he is a danger to himself and others, but until he actually DOES something to justify that action I will not support it.
And the rest of them are kooks, bigoted, intolerant, various stripes of offensive to me, without a doubt - oh, and their weapon safety and handling practices are IMHO, appalling.

That said - what the Gov pulled on them was complete and utter bullshit, a setup from the get-go, and everyone involved knew it.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51475

There was also some other creepy goings on related to it as we suspect but cannot prove some of them dickheads training for civilian pacification up at Grayling were on site, at the very least observing/spying on the Hutaree.

Anyhows, now that the whole case has been rightly pitched and the dust has settled, the financial damage done unto the people the Feds fucked over has come calling - whether or not they seem inclined to sue, I will surely be encouraging it, because that is what lawsuits of these type are FOR, to rectify the financial damage DONE by malicious prosecution, jobs lost, income lost, possessions repossessed, relationships destroyed, yadda yadda.

And so here's me, in the wonderful position of having dinner with a pack of bastards I'd just as soon see dead, as I am obligated for not only reason of solidarity, but certain personal obligations (damn you Pratt!), to attend and support a fundraising event out in freakin Manchester, which thankfully ain't all that far from here - and I can't even drag Gus along with me to piss them off cause he's down in Mississippi stomping some ass of his own regarding the situation in Meridian.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/11/1119201/-Now-They-Are-Jailing
-Our-Children-For-Dress-Code-Violations


But imma screw with em too, gonna wear me an Obama 2012 button and will be pointing out that the asshats they support politically (other than Ron Paul) are in fact the shitheels who enabled crap like what happened to them in the first place - exercising MY right to Free Speech, and on grounds they dare not bitch about, since I took such a hard line protecting theirs.

Doesn't make me hate the bastards any less, though.

-Frem

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:16 PM

Try to piss 'em off, that's the best you can do. Maybe you'll get on the "Do not invite this guy" list for next time.

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:24 PM

All I can say is...



I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM

You go Frem...once again I say, I wish we could clone you!

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Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:40 PM

Damned computer...

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Monday, August 27, 2012 1:40 AM

Yanno only a few of us know the others IRL. For the most part we either believe each others posts or we don’t. But the same applies to you. For all >> I << know YOU'RE the mama's boy typing away in the basement.

It makes your post rather humorous, in a way I'm sure was completely unintended.

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Monday, August 27, 2012 3:58 AM


You do know know that the very selection of your postname here gives you away there "indrid", more than a little bit, whether or not you were intentionally mocking my family, yes ?

Yes imma be at your stupid hog roast with your lameass band, and I am bloody well aware the whole scheme was bullshit from the start, helpfully pushed and padded by the goddamn SPLC - which really ought to bring into question why y'all would have any affection for Dees, since he's one of em.
Not to mention you played right into it by not properly vetting your people, one of whom sold you totally down the river and yet you welcomed his ass back with open arms, which quite frankly makes you too stupid to be any kind of real dangerous.

Just cause I support your right to free speech doesn't mean I support YOU, dickhead, but you knew than when you tapped outsiders for legal research, and you know damn well most of the southern faction of the wolverines doesn't care for you either - or are you just butthurt cause someone called into question your piss poor firearms behavior, hmm ?
Most people don't care for being arbitrarily muzzle sweeped, and that's a fact.

I find it terribly amusing you, if you're who I think, wasted the time and trouble to whinge at me, to say you do not care, when it's obvious you do, since you're here, yes ?
Which makes the real question - which one of us is trolling which ?

One you're welcome to ask in person in September, jackass.


-Frem

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Monday, August 27, 2012 4:57 AM

Oh, and by the way there, Nick ?
Just as an aside, you might not wanna recycle the same schtick over and over, cause it really does make it too easy to troll you right back, just so ya know.

-F

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Monday, August 27, 2012 2:22 PM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Oh, and by the way there, Nick ?
Just as an aside, you might not wanna recycle the same schtick over and over, cause it really does make it too easy to troll you right back, just so ya know.

-F



How are you going to troll me back? Post pics and it proves you are telling the truth. Don't and I say your full of shit.

Just because I'm newer to this site does not mean I'm new to the internet.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Monday, August 27, 2012 2:56 PM

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So you can apologise and move forward, or not and further exemplify your ignorance and lack of respect for a person who has done more for free speech in the last 2 years than you could ever dream of doing in a lifetime.


Demanding an apology is the surest way of getting none. Or at most an insincere one.

Did you research this board and the people on it before you started posting? It's very unlikely that your argument that we owe you anything is going to fly here, whether you have military service or not. All that shows is that someone tricked you out of two or more years of your life and fed you amphetamines and testosterone in a dirt hole somewhere. My sympathies. Unfortunately, despite your efforts, it appears the constant erosion of freedom of speech is still very much a reality.

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