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The Dark Knight Rises - It's Dark!

POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Friday, August 17, 2012 03:58
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SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:33 AM

Hi Auraptor,

I agree with you about the seemingly contrived political "statement" Nolan was trying to make, but it was poorly and disasterously constructed. I never got the feeling he was actually trying to bring across his point of view, he just thought it relevant to include something from today's headlines to drive the story. It failed miserably. So no political comment is needed, as far as I'm concerned, because none was made. It was, as Zeek put it, a bunch of thugs looting and stealing. I sure hope he wasn't thinking "how clever of me to put in this plot device to entertain and move the story along. We get mob scene and action and thrilling heroics."

My guess is that a studio exec sent a note to Nolan about creating a spectacle where none was needed. I know, I'm defending Nolan without really knowing his intention. Ok, I'll stop now.

SGG

Where does he get those wonderful toys? - Joker, 1989 Batman

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 9, 2012 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Haters gotta hate. I thought it was awesome! What a cast! I'd give Michael Caine an Oscar for this.

HKCavalier.

Does " The movie was good. Darn good " sound very much like 'hating' ?

And we don't disagree on the cast, either. Ms Hathaway did a great job too, as did others.

But pointing out certain issues ( flaws ), doesn't mean anyone is 'hating' does it ?

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Mal has survived both a gun shot wound to the gut AND being run clean through with a sword, and he's still flyin'. He should have survived neither, yet there he is. Pointing that out doesn't make Joss some sort of a hack or Mal any less of a BDH, does it ?

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

ZEEK

Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:00 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
You know the saying "damned with faint praise?" Y'all's haters 'cause the movie rocked balls, yo! And Zeek straight up hated. Word.

Straight up hater in the house. Word to your mother!

MAL4PREZ

Friday, August 17, 2012 3:58 AM

Finally saw this today. Sorry, but meh.

I won't say it was a *bad* movie, certainly not, but with this much hoopla and budget and two really good movies to build off of, I had certain expectations. This did not live up.

It might be a comparison issue - and I don't mean the other Dark Knight movies. I've seen two other movies this summer, The Avengers and The Bourne Legacy. Nothing in TDKR could live up to the brilliance of Joss's dialogue or the fascinating complexity of Jeremy Renner's acting. (I could watch that man's face all day. So much going on!) Batman's special effects were very well done, but not as jaw-dropping and purely entertaining as the Avengers. The action was not as hard-hitting or clearly presented as Bourne. As for suspense/drama... I hung on every minute of those other movies, but felt very little in Batman. I didn't bond with any of the characters and didn't feel especially worked up over the plot. Too little depth in the former, too many holes in the latter.

Now, don't hate on me, because I'm not hating. I'm sharing my honest reaction, and honestly I kind of felt like leaving the theater at a few spots. Not out of hate. More like apathy. I just wasn't that interested.

I don't know, maybe I'd be able to forgive the faults if those other movies weren't fresh in my mind. Maybe, if viewed in a vacuum, I'd have found TDKR to be as good as the other Batman movies. (I really loved the second one, with Heath!) Maybe I'd have liked TDKR if I'd seen it first this summer. But I didn't. Such is life.

There were good things, which may spoil:

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I liked that catwoman was catwoman right from the beginning, with none of the twists and turns that Michelle Pfeffier had to go through. The first scene with her getting caught stealing the necklace was unexpected and fantastic. Loved the Bane twist, loved the ending. Sucked that the Bane twist happened so late, because the male masked Bane I really did not like. (Blah blah blah big scary guy mask weird voice blah.) Get him out of the way sooner, I might have been more into things.

Bads: The forced class warfare angle didn't work for me and I didn't get drawn into the take-over-NYC plot. Someone already talked about Batman's healing process: yeah WTF was with that? Completely not believable. His health issues - like no cartilage - were just ignored when they became inconvenient. Compare this to how Iron Man dealt with his heart issue. Now THAT was interesting plot!

Hey, I'm willing to give up a lot to enjoy a movie. I will go to great lengths to find a way to believe improbable plots. Say... (SPOILER FOR BOURNE) like accepting that a shot of virus could make you sick for a day but then permanently up your IQ a good 50 points. I'll swallow that hook if Renner is selling it. But I couldn't suspend disbelief for TDKR. Not a good enough sell.