Civil Obedience

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CANTTAKESKY

Sunday, July 1, 2012 2:00 PM

http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2012/01/howard-zinn.html

DEVERSE

Sunday, July 1, 2012 2:41 PM

I thought the Vietnam war ended some time ago? Why would one protest it today?

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face
With stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been

CANTTAKESKY

Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:42 PM

Deverse,

I don't think this quotation is about protesting the Vietnam War. It is about protesting all wars, including current ones.

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So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
is all the sad world needs.
- Ella Wheeler Wilcox, poet (1850-1919)

WISHIMAY

Sunday, July 1, 2012 5:12 PM

Yanno, I had this thought this morning, and it may or may not have any real related value....but this whole eat healthy/excercise pr nonsense really bugs me... It's like they are saying "We don't really CARE if you are smart, so long as you make us LOOK good..." ARE they actively TRYING to make a pretty but stupid slave class??

Wouldn't their focus be better served by enhancing education, isn't that where the real power lies ???

Do they really want a nation of idiots? People who aren't smart enough to question? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but it's not like being smarter really would detract from ruling ability , seeing as "smarter" doesn't really equal "more ethical"(at least, from the people I know.)

DEVERSE

Sunday, July 1, 2012 5:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yanno, I had this thought this morning, and it may or may not have any real related value....but this whole eat healthy/excercise pr nonsense really bugs me... It's like they are saying "We don't really CARE if you are smart, so long as you make us LOOK good..." ARE they actively TRYING to make a pretty but stupid slave class??

Wouldn't their focus be better served by enhancing education, isn't that where the real power lies ???

Do they really want a nation of idiots? People who aren't smart enough to question? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but it's not like being smarter really would detract from ruling ability , seeing as "smarter" doesn't really equal "more ethical"(at least, from the people I know.)

Wish - you may want to read this in answer to your question.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/29/1104595/-Texas-GOP-backtracki
ng-on-critical-thinking-Forest-for-the-Trees

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With stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been[/color]

WISHIMAY

Monday, July 2, 2012 3:43 AM

Don't know what to make of that, after all... it's Texas. Kwicko, Par for the course there?
Although it could bloody well as easily could have come from here...

SIGNYM

Monday, July 2, 2012 1:23 PM

WISH

Now, why in hell would The Powers That Be (hereinafter referred to as TBTB) WANT to educate "the people"? If YOU were a PTB, what would YOU want? (Especially if your main goal was to STAY in power?) Well, I would imagine that you would want any critical thinking skills to be isolated to your children. Especially the part that questions empathy, since your kids might go off the rez and suddenly start empathizing with the sheep... er, I mean, populace. Then you would need maybe 10% of the population to be well-versed in practical technology like computer sciences, or biotech, or engineering. Forget about blue-sky research like physics or biology or psychology; or deep thinking like physics or philosophy. The rest??? It would be very helpful if they had very short attention-spans, looked on you (or corporations) as their savior, bought whatever trash you chose to push on TV, and spent all of their emotions on their local sports team or yet-another vicious competition like "reality" TV shows. I mean, use YOUR critical-thinking skills, girl!

And OOC, why would you be responding to Kwicko, since his name appears nowhere in this thread?

WISHIMAY

Monday, July 2, 2012 1:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I mean, use YOUR critical-thinking skills, girl!

And OOC, why would you be responding to Kwicko, since his name appears nowhere in this thread?

Sometimes I really don't know... On the surface it LOOKS eengineered, but some people really just aren't made to question or learn things(like where did the phrase villiage idiot come from then??). I don't think gov't would have to do anything to ensure a compliant population. I think a third of the population doesn't try on purpose...

As for asking Kwicko, thought he lived down Texas way...know someone else does, but I couldn't remember who...

SIGNYM

Monday, July 2, 2012 2:10 PM

WISH... if the Europeans can be a thinking and self-responsible population, and there are few if any genetic differences between us and them... why can't we? Only 10% or less of the population is so deficient in mental capacity that they cannot be taught simple ethics and logic. That doesn't explain our (ie the USA's) outstanding statistics (and I mean "outstanding but not in a good way") on indicators of critical thinking like religiosity, brand loyalty, criminality, and civic engagement. We are an embarrassment compared to the rest of the industrialized world. It's well within our capacity to do better.

DEVERSE

Monday, July 2, 2012 3:03 PM

Took me a while to find this, but its nice and short

Examination Day by Henry Seslar - read it here: http://www.thebostonbachelor.com/2008/examination-day-by-henry-seslar/

Makes one wonder if this is where we are going.

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face
With stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been

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