Hmmm ... Anime?
POSTED BY: JenDandy
UPDATED: Thursday, October 14, 2004 19:26
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"Boogiepop Phantom" is a great one, very creepy and atmospheric.
"Sailormoon", the original Japanese version, is cute and has some terrific characters.
I've seen the first few episodes of "Escaflowne" and I'm very interested in finishing it someday.
Right now I'm watching "The Big O", which looks pretty damn good after only 3 eppys.
Oh, and avoid "Real Bout High School" like the plague. I got the whole boxset of it (most anime you can't rent before you buy around here) and it started out well but the ending blows.
-Sig Rebel-
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Anyone seen Outlaw Star -- or similar name.
I'm fairly new on the anime front, although I'd seen all the feature films named above. Just got into Cowboy Bebop. Someone said if I like this then I'd like Outlaw Star. Anyone?
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My anime story starts many years back, at a birthday party of mine with a few of my best friends over. My dad went to a video rental store and picked up a few different movies. We ended up watching Princess Mononoke, and it was good.
Fastforward a few years. My best friend, Paul, had enjoyed Mononoke enough to start checking out more anime. By now he is a huge anime fan. I showed him Firefly, meanwhile, he introduced me to anime with Cowboy Bebop. We both loved the other show, and thought that the similarities (both space westerns) were amazing.
From there he showed me several other series and movies, most of which I loved.
Since the listing seems to be popular, I'll list all the ones on the top of my head that I've seen and enjoyed:
Princess Mononoke
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Spirited Away
Akira
Serial Experiments Lain
Ghost in the shell
12 Kingdoms
Haibane Renmei
Crest of the Stars (and it's sequel Banner of the Stars)
FLCL
...and some others I can't think of right now. Wow, I just realized that I've seen quite a bit!
So basically my best friend hooked me on several good animes. I got him hooked on Firefly and Babylon 5, in turn. Everything is shiny! :)
Keep flying
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Quote:"Make me your fellow traveller, one that you trust more than words."
Originally posted by fireflywildcard1:
Hey Michizure, what's the translation of your sig?
I suspect that Firefly fans might well enjoy Irresponsible Captain Tylor, even if it is more comedy than action or drama. I recommend, however, ignoring the ages given for Tylor and his intel officer, LtCmdr Star (20 and 19, respectively) -- they make much more sense at double that (40 and 38), which were their ages in the novels upon which the anime is based.
fireflywildcard1: You need to see the last three eps, and the OVA's. Get cracking.
Quote:There are some really well-done dubs, but I agree that they are the exception. The cowboy bebop dub is often quoted as a prime example (though personally, I can't give up Hayashibara Megumi as Faye Valentine). I was also impressed with the Sakura Wars 2 OVA, and with (of all silly things) Angel Tales.
Originally posted by fireflywildcard1:
I watch all anime in Japanese with subtitles. I don't know, all dub actors (to me) butcher the tone of the show.
Voice actor Mike Brady claimed (in a panel at DragonCon this weekend) that the producers of the You're Under Arrest! TV series took the dub soundtrack from the OVA's and told their Japanese cast, "Do it like this!"
So it is possible to produce a decent dub. It just depends on how much time and effort the studio is willing to invest, and whether they can resist the temptation to "kiddie-fy" the result. Remember, too, that dubbing a completed series is a very different process than recording the original soundtrack.
My recollection is that the dubs for the series mentioned below are mostly pretty decent, so it shouldn't pose an obstacle for anyone who doesn't want to bother with subtitles.
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Originally posted by makerofpaths:
Just got into Cowboy Bebop. Someone said if I like this then I'd like Outlaw Star. Anyone?
Outlaw Star is very similar to bebop (or Firefly, for that matter) in many respects: chance-met crew of a small starship becomes a surrogate family while struggling to scrape by. The original "girl in a box" scene appears in the first episode, too.
The main difference is that, while the crew of Firefly or bebop are mostly mature, established professionals, Outlaw Star is more of a coming-of-age story. The space opera and comedy aspects are also played more broadly (but not as much as, say, Lost Universe). Stay away from its spinoff series, Angel Links, though, unless you really want to see a sf-themed magical girl show.
If you can find it, I highly recommend Sol Bianca and its sequels, as a fair Firefly substitute. The crew there are pirates (and all female), but they follow their own ethical code. No obvious aliens. The artwork is gorgeous, though showing its age.
Crest/Banner of the Stars has an entirely different feel -- mostly serious and epic, and focused at the top of the social strata -- but you might like that as well. No aliens in that one, either, just human variants.
Martian Successor Nadesico and Vandread are fun little space opera comedies, with some action and drama thrown in. They aren't in the same class as the others I've mentioned, but they're worth checking out if you just want something undemanding and fun. Nadesico also has the peculiar distinction of the most carefully explained real science background of any sf show I know, live action included -- but you have to really pay attention to what's being said in the subtext to get a lot of it.
I've seen only a little Trigun, so I'll leave the reviews to someone better acquainted; ditto the various Gundam series; and I'm not even going to try Macross/Robotech. I don't recommend Legends of the Galactic Heroes, however: too stodgy for my tastes.
And that's about it for ship-based sf anime, at least in my repertoire. Check these out, and let us know what you think.
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Kotoba yori tashika na koto michizure ni shite.
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And that's about it for ship-based sf anime, at least in my repertoire. Check these out, and let us know what you think.
Wow. Thanks muchly for all those reviews. I've cut-and-pasted that into a file for later ref.
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"When one man chases a hare, he finds a hare. But when many men chase a hare, they find a dragon."
--Source: The Darkness That Comes Before, by R. Scott Bakker.
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I don't have access to a lot of animé in Canada (all Canadian animé is imported from the states, so we only get less than a third of what the US gets). My favourite animé is InuYasha, because I'm a sucker for epic romance, comedy, action, intrigue, and villains that could easily carry their own show. That said, I've only seen up to ep 53 (InuYasha's "Lady Macbeth" impression after the massacre)
In a related note, YTV (the network that has given us Gundam Wing, Escaflowne, and aired InuYasha in full-hour blocks) has officially become the Coolest Network in Canada. This Friday evening, they start their new Fall schedule:
7:00: SD Gundam Force (!!)
7:30: Transformers: Energon (Meh.)
8:00: Dragonball GT (perfectly timed to let me jump to CityTV to catch Enterprise)
8:30: Dragonball Z
9:00: Justice League Unlimited (!)
9:30: Gundam Seed (!!!)
10:00: InuYasha (*hopes for new episodes*)
10:30: Witch Hunter Robin (!!!!!)
That's three new shows that I NEVER expected to air in Canada --and we get to keep InuYasha. I'm amazed the Canadian Content Nazis ("99.99999999% Canadian Content, or you'll be rounded up and executed!") are permitting this much shinyness on one network.
Pretty much the only thing YTV could do now to make me love them more is to start some late-late-night block where they could air Evangelion, but even I'm not hoping for that.
Quote:My favourite dub is the Canadian Cardcaptors (Cardcaptor Sakura) dub (not the American version which was further edited after it was dubbed).
Originally posted by Michizure:
There are some really well-done dubs, but I agree that they are the exception.
As much as I'm a fan of CLAMP's art and writing, I do tend to accuse them of writing their own slashfic. One or two yaoi/yuri pairings I can accept, but nearly every character in CCS is bi and actively pursuing at least two people.
The dub downplays the slashiness by replacing it (rather than just ignoring it). Gives the whole series a certain psychological subtlety.
The Tori/Julian yaoi is now Tori's somewhat more realistic paranoia (which kinda fits, since Julian is kinda creepy no matter how you slice it), and Li/Julian is now Li sensing something (magical) and not knowing what to make of it.
Madison (Tomoe's) crush on Sakura is now hero-worship, which makes sense. Here's Madison, who's rich, talented, a member of just about every club in school, a straight-A student, who designs clothes and makes movies in her spare time. Then here comes Sakura, who does magic. For the first time in her life, Madison is not the best at something. As happy as she is for Sakura, there's an undeniable bit of envy gnawing at her. . .
The dub only really falls apart at the end where Teletoon (the stupid, thoughtless, Fox-like Canadian equivalent to Cartoon Network) suddenly decided to cut out the Li/Sakura puppy-love (which had been established previously. Entire scenes are sliced out and rearranged (Sakura crying on his shoulder, Li's confession of love, the dozen roses that now appear inexplicably and vanish into thin air), and they actually went so far as to edit the final card, replacing "LOVE" with "HOPE," in the wrong font, and not actually aligned to the card. It looks like a really bad photoshop job.
Which of course means that they can't air the second movie (if Teletoon even knows about it), 'cause that card (and the romance) is a major plot-point.
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Originally posted by Michizure:
I've seen only a little Trigun, so I'll leave the reviews to someone better acquainted; ditto the various Gundam series;
Both are on my Netflix list, but they come highly recommended.
Infinite Ryvius is an interesting one about kids alone in sapce, kinda 'Lord of the Flies' in space. I've only seen a couple of episodes but I'm liking it more as I watch.
Voices of a Distant Star is a great short that I rented from Netflix as well.
http://www.anime-forums.com is a good forum for getting info on anime.
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Same time post; make a wish!!
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Originally posted by Michizure:
I've seen only a little Trigun, so I'll leave the reviews to someone better acquainted; ditto the various Gundam series;
Both are on my Netflix list, but they come highly recommended.
Netflix only has the first 5 discs of Gundam Wing, so you'll have to find another way to get the last 5 discs of that series if you like it. I ran into that problem myself when I rented the series from them.
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Originally posted by Michizure:
fireflywildcard1: You need to see the last three eps, and the OVA's. Get cracking.
I would love to get cracking on seeing more of Tylor but my source of the tapes is no longer available and none of the rental stores in my area nor Netflix carry Tylor dvds/videos.
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