Prometheus

POSTED BY: pizmobeach
UPDATED: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:57
VIEWED: 11830
PAGE 1 of 2

1 2 NEXT PAGE

PIZMOBEACH

Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:13 PM

:::::::::::::::::::::: Big Time Spoilers ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

What I like the most about Ridley Scot movies are their look, and Prometheus - in that regard - didn't disappoint. There's a beauty shot of the ship Prometheus as it lands on a moon (main location for much of the film) and in the Rave DLP 2D version/cinema I saw it in it was absolutely breathtaking in it's detail. As cutting edge as it gets visually - I couldn't help but think of seeing Serenity in the same shot - what a treat that would be.

I like the over all story and the twist that occurs - that our Creators didn't want us to contact them so we could have a picnic reunion - they wanted to kill us, they may even be more evil than the chest-busting life form they created to kill us.

Sounds good, looks great, but in the telling I was not completely won over by it - maybe too many bits borrowed from previous movies (the snarky, smart alec crew).

Noomi Rapace was great - her physicality was impressive - I felt the pain! Fassbender's David - meh. I think he was good but the idea of the evil robot servant with an agenda is over done, not his fault.

There is a kind of homage to the original chest bursting scene - I remember when that happened in the original in a packed theater how absolutely quiet it got (apart from the screaming), and how exhausted I felt after the scene was over. To a large extent the same in this movie - gaaaaaah! You know Scott is pushing your buttons with a hammer, but he does it so well.

I could have done without the "weapons of mass destruction" reference. Charleze Theron, 50-50. The "touching of the unknown, moving and threatening alien life form while talking to it like it's a dog with horrible consequences" - really??

And the music/score was a far cry from Jerry Goldsmith - pretty uninspiring imho - it sounded like would belong better with a WWII film, Pacific or some such, not scifi/horror.

I do want to see it again - I'm sure I missed a lot!

WINDIE

Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:19 AM

Finally watched this yesterday afternoon.

Quite liked the film for what it is, although it felt rushed and the plot has big holes.

The ship reminds me of an upgraded, bigger Serenity.

There was too much cutting from one set of characters to another without explanations. Not enough use of some characters. As I said it generally has a rushed feel.

Suppose I will have to wait for the super extended directors cut to fill in the gaps.

Why have they taken the sky from me

TWO

Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by windie:
The plot has big holes. Not enough use of some characters. Suppose I will have to wait for the super extended directors cut to fill in the gaps.

The scriptwriter had David, the robot, read the Alien Engineers' language. David even spoke it and the Engineer obviously comprehended, but the scriptwriter could not think of even one word for the Engineer to say. Maybe the Engineer speaks in the Director's extended cut? Or was it a failure of imagination to leave the Engineer a dumb beast?

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by windie:
Finally watched this yesterday afternoon.

Quite liked the film for what it is, although it felt rushed and the plot has big holes.

The ship reminds me of an upgraded, bigger Serenity.

There was too much cutting from one set of characters to another without explanations. Not enough use of some characters. As I said it generally has a rushed feel.

Suppose I will have to wait for the super extended directors cut to fill in the gaps.

Agree with all of this - there were simple scene transitions that would have been nice, a couple lines of dialogue really, but my guess is they hit the trash to save on time. It can be one of my biggest peeves with studios - the cut so they can get an extra showing, but if it makes it a worse movie then who's going to be there for the extra showing? I would recommend Alien to anyone who likes movies, and Prometheus mainly to scifi fans who like the series and then with a few disclaimers.

I forgot about Guy Pearce and the less than convincing advanced senior make up he had done for his character - not much better than Little Big Man some 40 years earlier imho.

Here's a scene that didn't make the cut:

Maybe it was just for the internet? Why an Aussie to play a Brit? I like Guy Pearce, but....

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by two:
The scriptwriter had David, the robot, read the Alien Engineers' language. David even spoke it and the Engineer obviously comprehended, but the scriptwriter could not think of even one word for the Engineer to say. Maybe the Engineer speaks in the Director's extended cut? Or was it a failure of imagination to leave the Engineer a dumb beast?

Prometheus II - Thus Spake Engineerous

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

TWO

Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:

Prometheus II - Thus Spake Engineerous

Everybody except Elizabeth dead and David's talking head in a duffel bag, the sequel is going to be really short: Prometheus ½

The sequel possibilities are vanishingly small unless Elizabeth pays back those thugs by dropping the Engineers' biological bombs on their home world. I'd buy a ticket to see genocide! I don't like calling them Engineers, they're Godfellows -- alien hit-men. The young 2023 Peter Weyland from the outtake has ambition: "We are Gods, now." He always wanted to be a Godfellow, Crime Lord over all life, but he can't because the real Godfellows are a million years ahead of Weyland.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:13 PM

My cousin loved it, my dad hated it, I thought it was okay. I actually liked the WMD thing, that was one of the parts that I thought was kind of cool. But there were wholes in the story and things that were a little confusing. Most others I've talked to are about where I am, they thought it was okay but not great or even all that good.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by two:
Everybody except Elizabeth dead and David's talking head in a duffel bag, the sequel is going to be really short: Prometheus ½

That just means there's less to have to write around, I believe it would be freeing, even more exciting to see her wreak havoc with so little to start with. And - don't forget that one line that was kind of a throw away line: "Who created them?"

I don't know the numbers but they are likely to tell us before "story potential" does, whether there will be a sequel :)

Originally posted by two:
"The sequel possibilities are vanishingly small unless Elizabeth pays back those thugs by dropping the Engineers' biological bombs on their home world. "

See, you just typed that out and look how good it is.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I actually liked the WMD thing, that was one of the parts that I thought was kind of cool.

Hi RionaEire - I find it kind of jarring to be in an escapist, futuristic movie and then given a reference to our current times (especially the messed up part). I like leaving all that outside the theater.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

TWO

Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
My cousin loved it, my dad hated it, I thought it was okay. . . . Most others I've talked to are about where I am, they thought it was okay but not great or even all that good.

The parts are uneven. I bet the FX people say that seeing Alien on late night TV changed their lives forever. Those young people put their hearts into making Prometheus great. It shows! On the other hand, the much older director (born: November 30, 1937, age 74) saw this as just another job to be done with the minimum of mental energy. That also shows.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

1 2 NEXT PAGE