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Worst overnight ever!

POSTED BY: YeAhItSme
UPDATED: Monday, December 9, 2002 04:35
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Saturday, December 7, 2002 7:17 PM

I was pissed because I was watching fox before FF came on and I saw a comercial for the syndicated run of that 70's show that was going to be on at 11:30 and then on the next break simpsons at around 12, YET not one did I see and add for the show that was going to be on next, firefly

Its as bad as the way the network treats futurama!

Yet I never seem to miss a comercial for fox's ultra conservative "reporter" Bill O'Riley

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 7:59 PM

My favorite is when I see a commercial for an "upcoming" episode of a show I just finished watching, and it's the same episode that was just on..same time same date. ACK!!

GORRAMM IT!! Please make them advertise this show...someone...anyone...please....I will beg if I have to, I will beg if I dont have to if it will help.

LONG LIVE FIREFLY!!!

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 8:18 PM

I've got a really BAD feeling right now. Fox does NOT have a good track record with marginally performing shows. My all-time favorite show, Brimstone, was cancelled 13 episodes into the run and that show had a pretty steady 3.7 towards the last few episodes. Even an extensive, well-coordinated letter-writing campaign failed to save the show. A second case in point was Harsh Realm. I had an opportunity to see the unaired 6 episodes and each steadily got better once you bought-into the premise. Neither show had an opportunity to find an audience and that track record goes strongly against Firefly.

I think Firefly is great and it is one of the few shows I make any effort to watch (Buffy, Angel, and 24 are others). But I have 2 young boys and sometimes I cannot get to watch my "don't miss" shows unless I tape them for playback later. Isn't the main demographic this show is targeting OUT having fun on Friday nights? This demographic is probably recording the show and playing back later. Hell, the massive Tivo sign-ups are proof of this.

Just one last thing, just who the blazes are the Nielsens anyway?

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 8:25 PM

Quote:


Just one last thing, just who the blazes are the Nielsens anyway?



A couple thousand people have a little device hooked
up to their TV that records what they watch. Yes,
just a couple thousand. It's come under fire for
this, potentially being too small a statistical
sample. For the major networks, however, it is
pretty accurate, except...

What really blows is that none of these devices are
on college campuses. They don't track student populations,
which account for huge percentages of Firefly/Babylon
5/Farscape audiences.

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 9:54 PM

What's going to kill Firefly will be the show that replaces it while Firefly is on hiatus. And don't start panicing if the numbers initially start off high. Watch the drops from week to week. Also watch what John Doe does with a new lead-in. If its number rises, there could be problems. If John Doe also falls, it could bode well for a Firefly return. Of course, this being big network television, they'll probably cancel all the shows and start running episodes of "When COPS attack" or something equally intelligent. It's not over until the cancellation notice (and even then it might mean the show is only over with FOX). Peddling to other channels might be a very good idea.

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by YeAhItSme:
FOX's lame-duck "Firefly" managed only a 2.4/4.



I thought I read somewhere that anything about a 2.0 rating would be a good sign. Did I make that up without realizing it?

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 10:45 PM

Some of us also have a little box attached to our system called TiVO. Unfortunately, a show like Firefly, as well as Buffy and the like, aren't really shows families that would be considered "Nielsen Families" would watch. That was why Brisco County died. It was EXTREMELY popular, but the problem is its main viewership was college students in dorms, and Nielsen doesn't count that, BUT, the group that would watch these shows is the group marketers want. Ain't that fun?

Now, I have heard a rumor that Nielsen is working on a way to gather taping info from TiVo as well, since TiVO already does.

Also, remember, last nite was also a big SHOPPING NITE! :)

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Saturday, December 7, 2002 11:38 PM

I don't know if this is what it was like back then but apparently there are now nielsen boxes in college dorms. More than a few people have commented on the TWOP forums (and I believe on Usenet) that they had nielsen boxes when they were in college.



Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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Sunday, December 8, 2002 12:03 AM

agh. it's so frustrating, because i love firefly so much. Write more letters. Get more people into it. I'm going to work on a new batch of letters tonight. Please do the same!

~*Saint of Cheese*~

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Sunday, December 8, 2002 2:31 AM

The good news is, Nielsen is monitoring Tivos now.

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-948580.html

The other good news is, we watched it twice in our household. :)

The bad news is it doesn't appear that Nielsen is giving much weight to the Tivo data yet. I recall reading at one point that Firefly was in the top 3 of shows that Tivo owners had in their wishlists.

Which along with 4 million viewers keeps a show alive. :(



Plastics, my boy! Plastics!

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