Original Pilot? New Pilot?
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UPDATED: Thursday, May 30, 2002 18:04
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Originally posted by Jonwes:
I figured they would do something like that. I'm glad we'll get to see the pilot eventually. I kind of like getting the backstory later, actually. First episodes can be kind of weak that way, introducing the characters and what not. They never used to do that in series. Before they used to jump right into the middle of the action and fill you in as you go along. So I like that. I think it'll make a strong first episode.
I could go either way. I always thought with "Welcome to the Hellmouth" on Buffy Joss did a great "introductory" episode that still had plenty of action. It introduces the basic concept and characters in a very economical way. Joss has spoken about how he knew there would be some viewers who'd seen the movie and some who hadn't - so he deliberately made it light on the whole Slayer backstory stuff - he alludes to a lot without saying it. Later of course more details come out.
Shug
Her lips were saying 'No' but then I looked into to her eyes
... and her eyes were saying 'read my lips'
- Niles Crane
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Originally posted by malcolm:
I also heard that the "new" one hour pilot is not a "rewrite" and is more or less the next episode of the show post "original" pilot
Where did you hear this - because I'm still hearing from ME interviews that Joss was doing a 're-write'. Maybe it is the second episode that he's re-writing to add a little introduction.
Shug
Her lips were saying 'No' but then I looked into to her eyes
... and her eyes were saying 'read my lips'
- Niles Crane
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I heard from a well placed agency assistant that the "new" pilot was essentially episode one and not a rewrite of the "original" pilot. hopefully, we'll get to see both!
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Originally posted by malcolm:
I heard from a well placed agency assistant that the "new" pilot was essentially episode one and not a rewrite of the "original" pilot. hopefully, we'll get to see both!
BTW... I'm sure JW will do more wqork on the "new" pilot up until he shoots it. Good scripts are never finished... they're abandoned.
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While we're on the topic of pilots...
I had the opprotunity to view the Buffy pilot sever months ago. It was utterly awful. I am really surprised that it was accepted by the WB network for consideration, it was *that* horrible.
If that has anything to do with Firefly, I think that the pilot may very well have been "bad." However, seeing how much better Welcome to the Hellmouth and Harvest were than the Buffy pilot, I don't think we have *anything* to worry about with the quality of Firefly.
Anyway... just thought that was interesting 
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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Originally posted by Haken:
Where did you hear that it was going to be released as a feature film in England?
I can't remember the *exact* site I saw it at... but I'll try looking for the direct info.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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To clear up a few things: the so-called "new pilot" is in fact the first episode. The original pilot -- which, by the way, is awesome -- will likely air as a two hour "event," as has been stated here. A kind of "origins" piece. When Joss and I broke the story for the first episode, we kept this in mind. I got to co-write the new script with Joss, and it's the same show. There has not been some major "retooling."
The new script also works as a good introduction to the show, in my opinion.
The pilot, "Serenity," was a big part of why I wanted to do "Firefly." It does a thing... a thing that I adore (but the very thing that I think makes the network nervous to air it as the public's first exposure to a new series on their airwaves...) What I mean is, it works on you. It gets under your skin. At least, it did to me. It unfolds. Reveals itself to you. That's a thing Joss is great at. It stayed with me the day I saw it, and I woke up the next day thinking about it. I got a little obsessed with it.
Then, maybe a week or so after I saw it, Joss visited me on the set of "Angel" and asked me to come and make more "Firefly" stories with him. Uh... yeah. Ready for the ride.
Tim Minear
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Tim,
Welcome to the board!
Is there any truth in this rumour about the 2-hour pilot being released as a movie here in the UK?
All the best in any case - I've a feeling this is gonna be great
Shug
Her lips were saying 'No' but then I looked into her eyes
... and her eyes were saying 'read my lips'
- Niles Crane
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*passes out*
Wow! Our first *very* important poster!
Welcome to the boards, Tim!
Originally posted by TimMinear:
To clear up a few things: the so-called "new pilot" is in fact the first episode. The original pilot -- which, by the way, is awesome -- will likely air as a two hour "event," as has been stated here. A kind of "origins" piece. When Joss and I broke the story for the first episode, we kept this in mind. I got to co-write the new script with Joss, and it's the same show. There has not been some major "retooling."
The new script also works as a good introduction to the show, in my opinion.
The pilot, "Serenity," was a big part of why I wanted to do "Firefly." It does a thing... a thing that I adore (but the very thing that I think makes the network nervous to air it as the public's first exposure to a new series on their airwaves...) What I mean is, it works on you. It gets under your skin. At least, it did to me. It unfolds. Reveals itself to you. That's a thing Joss is great at. It stayed with me the day I saw it, and I woke up the next day thinking about it. I got a little obsessed with it.
Then, maybe a week or so after I saw it, Joss visited me on the set of "Angel" and asked me to come and make more "Firefly" stories with him. Uh... yeah. Ready for the ride.
Tim Minear
That's all *VERY* good to hear! I love how Joss can craft the very affective material... and I think it's great that Firefly is so good that it's scaring the network producers. While admitedly, I'm not all that versed in all things Tim Minear, I'm glad he chose you to co-produce!
This is *so* exciting!
Be sure to tell Joss to stop by! We're not the biting type. 
Or at least tell him that the fans are totally psyched for the show to debut! There is a *lot* of great stuff going on in the show... and I think it may be one of the most innovative shows ever aired (well, maybe not as innovative as Cop-Rock or Twin Peaks... but that is yet to be seen 
)By the way, if you are planning on stopping by here more than once, you should probably contact the webmaster (haken@fireflyfans.net) to verify your IP address or something... don't want any imposters!
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
who is loving Tim Minear right now!
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I really hope it's Tim Minear, the real one. We'll see if Haken can verify it for us. If it is the real Tim Minear, a big welcome to you.
It's written very well and it would not surprise me in the least if it is.
That's all I'm saying for the meantime.
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