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What happened to "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!"?

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Monday, May 28, 2012 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I thought they were elected on the promise that they would do everything to achieve their "primary focus": jobs!?



Still waiting for you to show that the Republican Platform's "primary focus" was on jobs.

Sure, it was in there, along with less government spending, lower taxes, and a strong defense, but "primary focus"?




Hello,

I have never felt the Republicans held jobs as their primary focus.

From my vantage, the primary focus of the Republican party has been to oppose anything proposed by a Democrat and to foster fear of the 'other.'

--Anthony


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Monday, May 28, 2012 3:19 PM

Take just Wisconsin:

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Scott Walker has made Wisconsin the last in the nation in job creation. Wisconsin lost 23,900 jobs between March 2011 and March 2012 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Wisconsin’s Department of Workforce Development Thursday reported Thursday we lost another 5,900 jobs in April.

Walker has $25 million from the American aristocracy to turn his lies into virtual facts. He does not like the facts, so he will buy ads to spread his lies and deceive the people with phony facts.

Walker’s promise of 250,000 additional jobs has turned into a loss of 29,800 jobs. Walker is making up his own facts and selling them in slick TV ads and appearances on right-wing shows. This election is about that and more. http://www.wiscnews.com/wisconsindellsevents/news/opinion/mailbag/arti
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how about Eric Cantor in 2010?
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we will hold each other accountable by asking: Are my efforts addressing job creation http://www.aolnews.com/2010/11/15/eric-cantor-gop-will-focus-on-jobs-s
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spoke about a number of things, certainly, but "jobs" and "job creation" were among the top, and most often spoken of. How about Boehner when pumping for the 2010 midterm elections, in 2009:
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“In the midst of this recession, Republicans’ No. 1 priority is the same as the American people’s: jobs http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24701.html thinking about the jobs area, but that’s number one. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/13/the-man-to-beat-eric-cantor/ we have to create 300,000 new jobs a month. So we don’t need an austerity program. We need a jobs program, and we need to put people back to work. Same
Let's see, what did John Boehner have to say further:
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During the 2010 mid-terms the GOP ran mainly on the platform of job creation and, as a result of such promises, the GOP gained the majority in the House of Representatives. As the new Speaker of the House, John Boehner made the welcome claim that the primary goal of the Republican Party was to increase employment in the U.S.

His exact words were: "We're going to have a relentless focus on creating jobs." http://republicanjobcreation.com/ believe that should be sufficient to validate the statement, coming from the two heads of the Republican Party in Congress, so how about we stop the game of "When did they say that???"

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Monday, May 28, 2012 4:08 PM

Yes, what happened to Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!? The Demorats and their whores in the MSM want to talk about gay marriage, what about...

Demorat controled Senate not passing a budget in 3 1/2 years

Gas prices twice what they were under Bush

REAL unemployment at over 10%

Gitmo still open

Patriot Act resigned

Chruch suing Barry

Biden a heartbeat and no brain cells away from top job

And yes, no Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

If the MSM was doing it's job Barry appoval rating would be around 30%

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Monday, May 28, 2012 5:31 PM

While we're at it:

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“And I'm very happy in my former life; we helped create over 100,000 new jobs. By the way, we created more jobs in Massachusetts than this president’s created in the entire country. So if the president wants to talk about jobs, and I hope he does, we’ll be comparing my record with his record and he comes up very, very short.”

— Mitt Romney, Jan. 3, 2012

The economic environment was pretty lousy in the early part of Romney’s term, so his three-year record amounts to less than 3,400 jobs. We’re not sure that’s worth bragging about.

When we last looked at one of Romney’s claims about Obama’s job record, his campaign inflated the job-loss total by assigning the entire month of January — when 820,000 jobs were lost — to Obama’s term, even though he took office Jan. 20. We are pleased to see that the campaign no longer does this, and instead starts the count in February.

But is this fair? An additional 2.2 million jobs were lost in February, March and April, before much of Obama’s stimulus could take effect. (He signed it into law Feb. 18). The recession did not officially come to an end until June 2009. Since that point, 1.2 million jobs have been created — which is still pretty anemic, but it is not a negative number.

Romney also claims to have created more than 100,000 jobs as a business consultant.

Fehrnstrom says the 100,000 figure stems from the growth in jobs from three companies that Romney helped to start or grow while at Bain Capital: Staples (a gain of 89,000 jobs), The Sports Authority (15,000 jobs), and Domino’s (7,900 jobs).

This tally obviously does not include job losses from other companies with which Bain Capital was involved — and are based on current employment figures, not the period when Romney worked at Bain. (Indeed, Romney made his comments in response to a former employee of American Pad & Paper Co. who says he lost his job after Bain Capital took it private.)

One Pinocchio
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/romney-vs-obama-
on-job-creation/2012/01/03/gIQA31g3YP_blog.html

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Mitt Romney’s campaign would have you believe that every job lost over the past three years is President Barack Obama’s fault. That includes the 820,000 jobs lost in January 2009, even though Obama didn’t become president until the 20th of the month.

It includes the 726,000 jobs lost in February 2009, before any of Obama’s policies had gone into effect. This suggests that Romney holds a deeply ambitious view of a president’s power to influence the labor market -- a view, as we’ll see, that’s not shared by economists who were responsible for White House economic policies in recent administrations.

Romney, too, discounts the president’s power when he highlights his own record in Massachusetts. In fact, Romney’s campaign asks us to believe that every job created in Massachusetts while he was governor was Romney’s doing. Obama might deserve the blame for the jobs lost on his watch, but George W. Bush, who was president during Romney’s governorship, gets no credit for the jobs created on his. Romney also claims that every job created by any company that Bain Capital LLC had a hand in should also be credited to Romney -- even if the job was created long after Bain separated from the company. Heads, I created a job; tails, you lost one.

Economists Scoff at Obama, Romney Job-Creation Myths: Ezra Klein

Illustration by Amit Werber

By Ezra Klein Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM PT .Facebook Share Tweet LinkedIn Google +1 95 Comments
Print QUEUEQ..Mitt Romney’s campaign would have you believe that every job lost over the past three years is President Barack Obama’s fault. That includes the 820,000 jobs lost in January 2009, even though Obama didn’t become president until the 20th of the month.

It includes the 726,000 jobs lost in February 2009, before any of Obama’s policies had gone into effect. This suggests that Romney holds a deeply ambitious view of a pre

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Monday, May 28, 2012 6:09 PM

You want to get elected by a land slide? Repeal NAFTA and GATT. Thanks Bill. Yep those mexicans sure did go home for the trade law that was going to make everything fair. Hey the unions supported Hillary who is on the board of Wal-Mart. But they would tell you over and over how evil Wal-Mart is at the union hall meeting. I am just glad that the jap driving white collar people are laid off today. Because they always said the blue collar people were over paid. The shoe is on the other foot today. I love it. Four years of Obama or eight years of Romney. Which is better. Looks to me they are both shit.


We have been sold out by traitors. The yes men called generals have sold our military out too. Let's not forget them either.

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Monday, May 28, 2012 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I believe that should be sufficient to validate the statement, coming from the two heads of the Republican Party in Congress, so how about we stop the game of "When did they say that???"



Nope. A few quotes spread out over several years don't make jobs the "primary focus" any more than finding a few quotes from the Democrats about, say, gay rights make that their "primary focus".

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:27 AM

Aside from Jobs Jobs Jobs....

I'd just like to make a special note of Patriot Act extended, the fact that you're being generous with REAL unemployment/underemployment rates by 8% and I'll add the fact that there are more kids in the "war" today than 4 years ago.....

All of the REAL issues I openly hated Bush Jr. for LOUDLY on these boards 4-8 years ago are somehow being "extended" with almost no media response today...

Fuck Bush....

Fuck Obama....

And, most assuredly, Fuck Romney, our new President.....



My biggest question that really baffles my mind about the last 4 years, is WHY DID OBAMA DO EVERYTHING HE COULD TO BE A BAD PRESIDENT!!!!!

Of 44 Presidents, he's the only one with enough black blood in him to have to acknoledge it.

Instead of really changing anything, he went along with the status quo and let previous shit fly and even empowered them further so Romney gets into office months from now and, from scratch, has inhereted unconstitunial powers that would make GWB cum in his panties.




At this point, Obama is DONE.....

Romney, as much as I hate it, is the future.....

If Obama wanted to make his kids proud and help to ensure that another black male EVER gets elected as a president, he will fall on his sword and at the 11th hour he will completely invalidate the Patriot Act, the Real ID Act, and he will suggest a congressional movement to SEVERLY limit "Executive Powers" before the enemy gets in.....

Seriously....

If he somehow pulled these 3 things off in his last few months in office somehow, I'd quickly turn from considering Obama as the worst president (including Jimmy Carter) to being the best thing that we've ever had in the White House in my life.




It's creeping ever closer to re-election....

Jobs aren't getting any better....

I was laid off from a 55k plus a year job I worked my way up through 5 years and I can't secure a job or even a damn interview at KMart today..... When you're looking for a bottom-of-the-barrel job out of necessity, let me tell you, it feels entirely AWESOME when they take 10 minutes to come out and embarass you in front of the girls at the Customer Service desk to tell you that they don't know what happened but they filled that position last week.....



I made 55k a year in 2009.....

Today, I'm going to interviews for jobs they don't even bother to warn me ahead of time that were already filled....



Good luck to all of you these days..... I have no debt, and if things don't get better who knows????

Sorry....

All of the physical jobs that could be outsourced are in Mexico.....

All of the semi-smart white collar jobs short of an expert have been farmed to India.....

Meanwhile, we owe trillions to China we can never pay off....





Don't listen to this talk....

Just go to work and come home and watch Reality TV....

It doesn't matter that China bought your favoite News station and has complete control over content



Good luck Ladies, you're on your own unless you make a fortue or you glom on somebody does.....





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Originally posted by whozit:
Yes, what happened to Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!? The Demorats and their whores in the MSM want to talk about gay marriage, what about...

Demorat controled Senate not passing a budget in 3 1/2 years

Gas prices twice what they were under Bush

REAL unemployment at over 10%

Gitmo still open

Patriot Act resigned

Chruch suing Barry

Biden a heartbeat and no brain cells away from top job

And yes, no Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

If the MSM was doing it's job Barry appoval rating would be around 30%

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:59 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I thought they were elected on the promise that they would do everything to achieve their "primary focus": jobs!?



Making sure Taxmageddon doesn't happen is a very big part of ensuring jobs return and the economy recovers.

I find it funny that you're criticizing the GOP for doing exactly what they said they'd do. Kinda like what's going on in Wisconsin, where the result is very positive for the state.



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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:29 AM

Just like that 'roaring economy!' eh little Rappy? And you wonder why you don't get no respect.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

With Wisconsin suffering the worst job loss numbers in the nation for the calendar year 2011, Governor Scott Walker promised yesterday that he will reveal newly revised numbers this week that will, effectively, change water into wine on the Wisconsin job front.

And he’s done it just in time for the June 5th recall election.

So, just how is Walker about to turn Wisconsin’s dismal job numbers from lemons to lemonade? (Note: See Update at the end of this article discussing the Governor’s revisions out today, May 16th)

The Governor has simply decided to ignore the system used by the Department of Labor — and every other state in the nation — to measure job growth (or loss) and elected instead to go with a different set of numbers that makes things in Wisconsin look better.

(emphasis in original)

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:36 PM

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Just like that 'roaring economy!' eh little Rappy? And you wonder why you don't get no respect.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

With Wisconsin suffering the worst job loss numbers in the nation for the calendar year 2011, Governor Scott Walker promised yesterday that he will reveal newly revised numbers this week that will, effectively, change water into wine on the Wisconsin job front.

And he’s done it just in time for the June 5th recall election.

So, just how is Walker about to turn Wisconsin’s dismal job numbers from lemons to lemonade? (Note: See Update at the end of this article discussing the Governor’s revisions out today, May 16th)

The Governor has simply decided to ignore the system used by the Department of Labor — and every other state in the nation — to measure job growth (or loss) and elected instead to go with a different set of numbers that makes things in Wisconsin look better.

(emphasis in original)




School districts are saving money, and keeping teachers employed by the direct actions of Gov Walker and his measures.

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Madison— Since Governor Walker signed the 2011-13 state budget into law over two months ago, tangible results from the reforms put in place by Governor Walker and the Legislature are continuing to be realized. According to media reports, local units of government and school districts have already saved more than $220 million, with millions more in potential savings not yet reported.

Below are new examples of local units of governments being able to balance their budget and improve services due to the reforms contained in the 2011-13 state budget and Act 10:

Oshkosh Schools
According to the Oshkosh Northwestern:

Taxes will go down nearly one percent under a preliminary budget approved by the Oshkosh school board Wednesday that also doesn't include a controversial plan to "pre-tax" referendum debt. Reference.

Racine County
According to the Racine Journal Times:

Pension and benefit changes for county employees will result in savings of over $1.5 million for Racine County taxpayers. Reference.

Manitowoc County
According to the Manitowoc Herald Times Reporter:

Manitowoc County would save taxpayers roughly $500,000 after changes to prescription drug co-pays and insurance deductibles for county employees. Reference.

North Lake Schools
According to Living Lake Country:
North Lake School District residents would see a 4.63-percent drop in their tax rate under the budget the School Board will present to taxpayers on Sept. 28.

The district also avoided any layoffs and maintained its small class sizes. North Lake's biggest class has 24 students. Reference.

Below are previous examples of the reforms:

City of Milwaukee
According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Despite early criticism from city officials, new figures show Milwaukee will gain more than it will lose next year from the state's controversial budget and budget-repair legislation.

The city projects it will save at least $25 million a year - and potentially as much as $36 million in 2012 - from health care benefit changes it didn't have to negotiate with unions, as a result of provisions in the 2009-'11 budget-repair measure that ended most collective bargaining for most public employees.

That saving would be partly offset by about $14 million in cuts in state aid to the city in the 2011-'13 state budget. The figure is down from earlier estimates of more than $17 million, after the Legislature scaled back Gov. Scott Walker's proposed cuts in aid for local streets and recycling. Reference.

Hudson School District
Health Partners and Delta Dental will provide the insurance to Hudson School District employees beginning Oct. 1. The change will save the district an estimated $1.1-1.2 million annually. Reference.

Germantown School District
Germantown had gone to several major carriers to receive quotes

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