Chechen women in mortal fear as president backs Islamic honor killings
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There is nothing is Islam that condones honour killing, regardless of what Muslim clerics or western news reports claim.
if you research honour killings, you will note that the practice of honour killings is cultural rather than religious in origin.
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According to Dr. Shahrzad Mojab, a University of Toronto professor of women’s studies, followers of Hinduism, Islam, Judaism and Christianity have used their religions as a rationale to commit honour killings. However, Mojab stated that honor killings don't have "any definite connection with religion at all." She alleged, without providing evidence, that honor killings have been practised before any major religion came into existence.[24]
Widney Brown, the advocacy director of Human Rights Watch, said that the practice "goes across cultures and across religions." Human rights advocates have compared "honor killing" to "crimes of passion" in Latin America (which are sometimes treated extremely leniently) and also to the killing of women for lack of dowry in India.[25]
Tahira Shaid Khan, a professor of women’s issues at Aga Khan University, notes that there is nothing in the Qur'an that permits or sanctions honor killings.[25] The first and most basic right in the Qur'an that every Muslim is expected to follow is, in fact, the right to life. [26] As written in the Qur'an,
For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (5:32) .[27]
Khan instead blames it on attitudes (across different classes, ethnic and religious groups) that view women as property with no rights of their own as the motivation for honor killings.[25] Khan also argues that this view results in violence against women and their being turned “into a commodity which can be exchanged, bought and sold.” [28]
A survey by author, Ellen Sheeley revealed that 20% of Jordanites sampled, believe that Islam condones and even supports murder in the name of family honor.[29] Others note how religious meaning attached to terms such as virginity and bride-price help to reinforce social traditions and the control of women’s body and their sexuality. [30]
And yes honour killings OF COURSE must be condemned by the International Community, as must other practises that denigrate and devalue women. Seeing as sex slavery, prostitution, pornography, including violent pornography are all extremely prevalent in the west, maybe we could condemn such practises without singling out one religious group for the ill treatment of women.
Chechnya is a conflict riddled place. The Checnyan people faced centuries of oppression from Russian and then Soviet and then Russian influences.
The world is much more complicated that 'Islam bad' as your posts imply, I wish you would take the time to read a bit more and think a little less black and white on issues.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
There is nothing is Islam that condones honour killing, regardless of what Muslim clerics or western news reports claim.
if you research honour killings, you will note that the practice of honour killings is cultural rather than religious in origin.
And yet, today we still have Muslim clerics and leaders of state promoting such barbaric acts. Infidelity in Iran is illegal, and punishable by lashes, jail time, and even death. Peace Be Unto you, brother.
Quote:. Is it? I thought sex slavery existed more so in Africa and SE Asia.
And yes honour killings OF COURSE must be condemned by the International Community, as must other practises that denigrate and devalue women. Seeing as sex slavery..[is]extremely prevalent in the west
Quote:Oh, right. So a bit of honor killings, after decades of Soviet rule, is sort of refreshing, is it ?
Chechnya is a conflict riddled place. The Checnyan people faced centuries of oppression from Russian and then Soviet and then Russian influences.
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The world is much more complicated that 'Islam bad' as your posts imply, I wish you would take the time to read a bit more and think a little less black and white on issues.
So, that's your response to the head of a state condoning honor killing of women?
Where's the Einstein quote I had... Oh, right! Here it is!
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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so to help with your apparent struggles with literacy, here it is again
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And yes honour killings OF COURSE must be condemned by the International Community, as must other practises that denigrate and devalue women.
please stop trying to infer that anyone condones this practise. It's a very dishonest way of participating in discussion.
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Wish and I agree on something. That's why I invented the Quadruple S, they can assassinate foreign leaders if:
A. enough of the people want it so.
B. Those people have a logical plan for afterwords.
C. Those people aren't worsethan the one being assassinated regarding human rights etc.
And when the hit goes down it can't be technically and officially traced back to the US, since we signed all that "we won't assassinate foreign leaders" stuff.
I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.
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so to help with your apparent struggles with literacy, here it is againQuote:
And yes honour killings OF COURSE must be condemned by the International Community, as must other practises that denigrate and devalue women.
please stop trying to infer that anyone condones this practise. It's a very dishonest way of participating in discussion.
No idea what you're going on about here, as I inferred no such thing. And speaking of literacy, I went so far as to underline the point I was making reference to, so there'd be no misunderstanding my point.
Which clearly, you did.
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"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
so to help with your apparent struggles with literacy, here it is againQuote:
And yes honour killings OF COURSE must be condemned by the International Community, as must other practises that denigrate and devalue women.
please stop trying to infer that anyone condones this practise. It's a very dishonest way of participating in discussion.
No idea what you're going on about here, as I inferred no such thing. And speaking of literacy, I went so far as to underline the point I was making reference to, so there'd be no misunderstanding my point.
Which clearly, you did.
This is what you said to me
"Oh, right. So a bit of honor killings, after decades of Soviet rule, is sort of refreshing, is it ?"
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"So, that's your response to the head of a state condoning honor killing of women?
Where's the Einstein quote I had... Oh, right! Here it is!
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein "
You are, are you not, suggesting that I find honor killings refreshing and that I am content to let these practises go uncondemned. Please explain to me how that is NOT what you have said?
In fact, I do condemn honour killings, and I support international condemnation of them.
As for what my argument is, its kind of useless trying to say it any other way. I could restate them, rewrite them, I could draw them, and you'd still misinterpret.
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"Earth Improvement Agency".
Oh I'm sure there will be no problem with this whatsoever!
Why do they choose the most benignly sinister and ironic sounding names possible for government programs and agencies? My unethical human experimentation conspiracy sense is deafening right now. ._.
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Nope. Because there actually IS a Muslim war on women. *points to top of thread, specifically at title *
Ignore it all you want. You usually do.
I'm only okay with Muslim practices towards women if the women are AGREEING to them for religious or cultural reasons. If the women don't want to be part of it (and I doubt any woman wants to be the victim of an honour killing), then I want to get them away from any abusive fundamentalist psychopaths as fast as possible. But they have to CHOOSE to be helped first, and I don't think we can do that with an army. Have to be more subtle.
Frem mentions a group called the RAWA now and then, seems to have the right idea.
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That they do - one of the few times I've been proven wrong was by them since I felt they weren't aggressive enough.
Then the NFA comes along and gives us an idea of what lies down that path, so, yeah.
http://www.rawa.org/index.php
-Frem
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The islamo Chechnya type as guns for hire invading, already been switching sides and murdering and killing in Ukraine, they will kill a Russian or one from Ukraine depending on who is paying the latest cash and digi currency payment
Chechen leader says he is prepared to send his forces to support Palestine
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chechen-leader-says-prepared-send-200142813
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