Adam Baldwin on Castle
POSTED BY: jake7
UPDATED: Monday, April 23, 2012 06:27
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I was pretty disappointed in the Firefly references (if there were any). Everything mentioned seems like basically pulling stuff we want to see out of normal dialogue.
I thought it would have been so easy to put some good stuff out there without having any negative impact on people that don't know what Firefly is.
- Why not just have Slaughter say "I really like that brown coat" to Castle rather than just "coat"?
- Slaughter could have called his gun Vira
- When Slaughter gave Castle the gun, he could have said "it's my very favorite gun".
All of those would have been really obvious (and awesome) to Firefly fans without disrupting the normal view at all.
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I caught the one about Slaughter wanting to keep his options open (Jayne with the grenades).
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Originally posted by FREEBAGEL:
All of those would have been really obvious (and awesome) to Firefly fans without disrupting the normal view at all.
Pretty sure they thought we'd be squee-ing our pants off just that they were together, so they didn't overkill with bluntness, which they coulda done, and all day long. The whole thing was just kinda so surreal, I didn't have time to squee a lot. There was soo much else going on!
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Maybe I'm reaching but when Slaughter had the Jamacian kid in the back of the garbage truck and was slowly cycling it I was reminded of the episode where Mal trapped Jayne in the airlock with it cracked open.
I like the fact that unlike on Bones where Adam's character was killed off, here Slaughter is still out there. Who knows?
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Originally posted by fivver:
Maybe I'm reaching but when Slaughter had the Jamacian kid in the back of the garbage truck and was slowly cycling it I was reminded of the episode where Mal trapped Jayne in the airlock with it cracked open.
I thought that also.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I caught the one about Slaughter wanting to keep his options open (Jayne with the grenades).
That's the quote I couldn't remember!
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Nobody has mentioned that they got into a brawl in a saloon, and Slaughter seemed to be hanging back . I was waitin' for him to say, " I never fought in no war. Best of luck, tho'"
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I have a theory:
When Slaughter took Castle's coat I thought it might become a reference if they'd mentioned that is was brown but they didn't so I put it down to me looking to hard for something and so I just watched the show. Reading some of the other possible references and most people's uncertainty about if they are genuine references or not led me to this:
We know the writers are Firefly fans and have used several references before. With both Nathan and Adam on the show they know that fans would be eagerly watching for any references and little in-jokes. And then eagerly posting about them online after the show.
I think they deliberately made subtle, almost references, rather than obvious ones, so that they couldn't be definitely stated as being there. They'd start to lead us towards something and change it or hide it or just not go there.
I think they did it to (jokingly) wind all the fans up and then read about in various forums.
Just my quickly depreciating two cents.
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In an interview I read before the show, both Adam and Nathan said there were Firefly references scattered throughout, but they wanted to put others in but decided against it because they felt it would be too much.
Still, I thought there would be at least SOME obvious line that the two of them would share that would point to their past relationship.
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Well, I enjoyed that Castle episode more than I have enjoyed any for a while, and it was mostly to do with Adam and Nathan working together and dominating the screen. The folks above have already pointed out a lot of the references. Here are the ones I caught. Some of them...maybe it's just me seeing Firefly references in ordinary dialog, but still... :-)
Dinosaur play (Castle doing voices in Wash's style)
"Unless that’s a problem" ...like Book and Kaylee in Serenity Pilot
Slaughter is wearing a sorta military-ish olive drab coat -- in the style of Jayne in several episodes
Castle wearing a brown coat. (!!!)
Castle holds out hand for shaking and Slaughter ignores it (Mal with the Councilor’s body guard, War Stories)
"Any friend of the mayor is a friend of mine" (like Mal and Inara in Heart of Gold, although I wouldn't have minded a "business-like relationship")
Brian (the Westie) barges through Castle like Jayne does with Simon in …I forgot which episode. Maybe it's more than once.
Slaughter drinks from flask, passes it on (like Jayne does with Simon in BDM)
“Let’s do this” outside the Irish bar (like Mal and Zoe in Train Job)
Bar fight (was I just seeing things? but it reminded me of the bar fight in the beginning of Shindig...they used a stool in both scenes)
Handkerchief/bloody nose (like in Trash)
Truck of medical supplies…out of gas (Ariel and Out of Gas)
"Go caveman on that partner" (Jayne didn't say this, but Slaughter's line is so characteristically Jayne-like that it had me laughing)
"Pack a little punch there for a writer" (of *course* he packs a punch...he's *Mal*!)
Pretending that he killed the guy in the Jamaican shop (Mal's joke that Kaylee's dead, in Serenity Pilot)
"That guy’s insane. He’s insane." said by Castle (turnabout's fair play, Mal) (Wash's line from War Stories; also Wash's "You are psychotic" from Serenity Pilot)
"Nothin’. Well obviously not nothin’. We’re talkin’…. (reminded me of Mal and Zoe dialog)
"You shoulda seen the look on your face (laughing)" (Mal in Serenity Pilot, dished back to Castle by Slaughter)
Guy in the garbage truck...Jayne in the airlock (Ariel)
"Make sure I could trust you. That you had my back" said by Slaughter. (Shades of Ariel, Mal unable to trust Jayne)
"But nothin’" (Castle) (Used in the same way Mal says it to Inara in Trash)
"Let’s do this!" (Castle) (Mal to Zoe and Jayne in Train job)
"I like to keep my options open" (Slaughter) (Jayne in BDM re: grenades)
"Whoa whoa whoa" (Castle) (exactly like Mal backed up to a cliff in Train Job)
I had about 5 others that I wasn't sure of, so I left them off the list.
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