Republicans sick of Trayvon Martin coverage

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UPDATED: Thursday, April 12, 2012 00:58
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The very first reports were saying he was white, and with the name 'Zimmerman' , and not Rodriguez.

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Sorry, I don't quite understand this. Is his last name not Zimmerman? Or should reporters have represented him as having a different last name, in order to reinforce the hispanic part of his heritage?

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The 'video' was only a surveillance / security cam. GZ had already been treated by the paramedics. He didn't come climbing out of the squad car covered in blood.

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Okay, but I was just saying all I had heard was that there was no evidence of injury on the video that was taken very soon after the shooting. That's all that was being covered and reported on. You know, since we're talking about coverage.
And perhaps he was treated by paramedics, but then there would have perhaps been visible bruising. Also, if any serious harm had been done to him, there may still have been blood on his clothing, unless he popped home to change between being seen by the paramedics and being brought into a police station in handcuffs. If serious harm was not done to him, then I don't see how he was justified in pulling the trigger. Not that very many things would justify it, but some things might. If he had a knife wound, bruised throat from being throttled, or another life-threatening injury, perhaps. As I said, much of the coverage has focused on the fact that Trayvon Martin was unarmed. He was not likely to be posing deadly threat without a weapon in his hands.

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Many of the photos the MSM are showing are of when Trayvon was much younger. The more recent pic, of an older Trayvon , with his gold 'grill' , don't exactly paint the same picture of a more innocent, cherubic victim.

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I'm sorry, again I'm not quite understanding this. The young man had a 'grill' and this would somehow mean, what, that he was not innocent? Highly unattractive though I find them to be, those things are hardly evidence of attempted murder or other justification for being shot to death.
Also, I have seen three or four photos in heavy rotation. Some of them look like they may be of a younger Trayvon Martin, which often seems to be done in montages of the deceased; showing a few snapshots from different points in their life. The one I have seen most often in this "main stream media" shows an unsmiling teenager in a white hooded sweatshirt. This makes him look like a pretty average teenager, honestly, neither cherubic or criminal, just a boy doing what they do in their teens.

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Even so, I don't see that deadly force was necessary, but that's easy for us to say now, after the fact. At the time, we don't know exactly what was going on. The facts should be allowed to come out, and this 'rush to judgement' doesn't do anyone any favors.

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I'm glad you don't see the deadly force as necessary. I can't imagine how it could have been. However, that should have been determined by the courts, or be in the process of being determined by the courts. That is the main thing being argued for. There should be a trial when someone is shot to death on the street, no matter who it is. In this case, it was a young person, which I think touched a few nerves. No one likes the idea of their children dying, and I think folks who are 10-15 years older than me were looking at this case and thinking, "Hey, he's about my kid's age" and that's bound to be upsetting. I don't think coverage is likely to stop until this thing goes to court.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
...in total agreement with someone who says they have not really been following this story except for watching a few shows.

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Are you referring to me? The one who is getting the lion's share of information from the "main stream media" that is supposedly spinning all these "lies" about everything? When I say I have not been following obsessively, that m

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Congresswoman Corine Brown , from Jacksonville, FL, said Trayvon was hunted down and killed like " a rabid dog ".

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Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion?

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It was Dem Rep. Frederica Wilson, not Brown. I had only heard the audio, and confused Brown with Wilson.

"Trayvon Martin's murderer is still at large. It's been one month, thirty days, with no arrest. I want America to see this sweet young boy who was hunted down like a dog, shot in the street, and his killer is still at large. "

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/27/dem_congressman_tray
von_was_hunted_down_like_a_dog_shot_down_in_the_street.html


As for the honorable Ms Brown, her views on the matter...

And Storybook - Not EVERY GOD DAMN piece of info needs to be cited and reposted here, when it's being played all over the news, or it's widesly accessible on for anyone to find. Hell, you'd demanding that I repost Darwins Origin of Species every single time I bring up the issue of Evolution, or repost the entire US Constitution, were I to discuss matters of govt. Get the hell over yourself already.



" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

So this is coming from FOX, huh? I can see why you'd be skeptical, of course. I'm skeptical, too, but when it comes to FauxNews, I always am, given their history. You questioning the veracity of their stories might be a breakthrough, though.

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I never said I was skeptical, and there's no reason for you to be either, any more than had it come from NBC, CBS, or AP, etc...

Classic diversion and denial. I get asked for a citation, and I give one. Then you phony up an excuse to not trust the citation.

* Note to everyone* - Do not believe Anthony. He does not know what he thinks he knows on matters concerning of what I think or believe.


" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Ive heard none of those from the press, myself. From regular people people, yes. But not the media.

But Im sure you can provide links.

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For the "white" Zimmerman and 100lb weight difference, you don't have to go far. Just the first post in this thread.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51371

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I googled "Corinne Brown Trayvon executed" (and "execution", and "Corinne Brown says/said Trayvon executed" as well) and could find nothing about her having said he was shot in the head execution style. Ah, I see you clarified that it was Fredricka Brown, who is quoted as saying "she was drafting legislation to establish a commission on the social status of black men and boys so that other black youths would not be “hunted down like a rabid dog” and “shot in the street.” She didn't say TRAYVON was shot that way, tho' yes, the implication is there.

However, while looking, I found her being reported as trying to calm things down:

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There was a brief moment of booing, when Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett addressed the crowd.
But U.S. Representative Corrine Brown quickly quieted it when she told them how Triplett flew to Washington, DC, and met with congressmen for five hours about the case and helped get the 911 tapes released to the public, which generated a social media buzz that propelled the case nationally. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119340/Trayvon-Martin-case-Ne
wt-Gingrich-slams-Obamas-disgraceful-comments-shooting.html

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So does that mean you were deliberately misrepresenting Brown? No, it means you clarified after finding out the facts, and your coloration of her as having said something bad was both erroneous and portrayed her in a way that is opposite of her real actions. Get it?

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Yes, 'WTF' is a legit question. But if the facts show that TM jumped GZ from behind, and was beating him, then how does that change the story ?

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It would change the situation somewhat, but there's still the question of who comes under the "stand-your-ground" law. The law is poorly written, and it's possible that jumping from behind, when one feels one is threatened by being stalked, would come under that statute, I don't know. I've heard a lot about the law being bandied back and forth, and one of the politicians from that area said that it should be a matter of who INSTIGATED the situation, and that those who instigate it should not be allowed to profit from killing the other person. AND that they (I forget who, sorry) and others in position to redo the law should make that a clear part of it.

I think one of the things people are upset about is that the police immediately gave Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt that he'd been attacked, the law kicked right in, and no effort was made to discover whether MARTIN might have come under that same law. The police department definitely has problems; once they heard the dispatch call (which I doubt they even bothered to do), they should have questioned why Zimmerman got out of his car and stalked Martin after being told not to. That could well be considered instigating, and they never even considered it.

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Even so, I don't see that deadly force was necessary, but that's easy for us to say now, after the fact. At the time, we don't know exactly what was going on. The facts should be allowed to come out, and this 'rush to judgement' doesn't do anyone any favors.

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Thank you for your honesty. But the "rush to judgment" thing has happened innumerable times, from all different sides of issues. I believe you probably remember the rush to judgment over Sherrod? Myriad examples can be found of ANY such occurrence causing a rush to judgment by both the population and the media, so while your statement is correct that it doesn't do anyone any favors, attempts by some to blame "the left" in some of the more stupid comments here are irrelevant.

Googling for "Martin shot in back of head", by the way, I can ONLY find that one claim by Kyle (and a few repetitions of him claiming it). So claiming it was widely said is untrue, as best I can discover. If you have cites wherein it was claimed by more than Kyle, that might prove your point. Otherwi

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