The plot thickens
POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37
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What with all the protests, demonstrations, news coverage, celebrity comments, and general heightened emotions, it's gonna be really difficult to seat an unbiased grand jury on this case.
I'm also seeing it as difficult for the Justice Department to make this a hate crime. Bad judgement, stereotyping and cop wannabe, sure. But when Zimmerman's Black friend is saying (at some risk to himself)that Zimmerman cried about the shooting for days, I'm not seeing the "lynching" some folks are claiming.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Hello,
To invoke a Wulfism which, ironically, he may never understand...
"It's a hell of a thing killing a man..."
Not as much fun as playing Rambo in your head.
--Anthony
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Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196
Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.
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@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA
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" If I had a son, he'd look like him. " - Barack Obama
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And Anthony? Stop lying about what I think. TIA.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Obama is a pathetic race baiter just like the vile and oft-disgraced race-opportunists Sharpton and Jackson. Funny how the President, once a notable Chicago organizer of sorts, never had a word to say about the 42 BLACK people shot in Chicago's Southside over a recent holiday weekend, including a six-year old girl who died from a drug driveby shooting. I guess Obama didn't think that little dead girl looked like his daughter. In their sick world, black on black crime is to either be ignored or accepted. Only whiteish skin is cause for alarm.
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Hope this is a sad, twisted rumor , but I'm hearing the Obama camp is actually selling hoodies with " 2012 " on them.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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"How would Trayvon's gf have overheard something different, when one of the 2 who were there is saying he was jumped ?" Obviously, the point about the phone call is, the girlfriend said one thing, Zimmerman (who is the only "one of the 2) left to say what happened) said another. He said/she said. The fact that the phone logs show she WAS on the phone at that time ("The unarmed teenager carried Skittles and iced tea, and was talking to his girlfriend on the phone, records show." ( http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-tr
ayvon.html) kinda shades who I'll believe at this point, but there's no proof either way of what was said on that phone call.
It's weird to me that I heard, and others here did, two bangs on the tape of the 911 call, but police claim only one: "Two loud bangs can be heard on one 911 call, and family attorneys said last week that that was evidence of two shots, but several witnesses who've spoken publicly about what they heard all describe a single shot." ( http://www.adn.com/2012/03/24/2388488/myths-half-truths-about-the-tray
von.html)
I heard last night that Zimmerman was following Martin around not wearing any uniform and WITH HIS GUN IN A HOLSTER ON HIS BELT. Boy, that would scare the PANTS off me in the middle of the night: A burly guy with a hostered gun (supposedly, we don't even know it was holstered, we just know he had a holster) follows me in the dark, first by car then by foot, and demands to know what I'm doing there. Wow.
And yeah, NOW they're claiming he was headed back to his car, having lost Trayvon. Why weren't they saying this from the first? There's evidence he followed the kid, and the dispatcher told him not to, but we can't know whether he was returning to his car or not, except by his say-so.
The Miami Herald sure has made up their mind, they "leaked" the following to the news. Question: What is the reason behind police department "leaking" information, rather than saying it directly? Fifty points for the person who guesses correctly.
Personally, I don't think we're ever going to know the truth. The MSM is so busy "reporting" one side or the other's "information", and coloring it either pro-Zimmerman or pro-Martin, it's a total mess. Here's one colored one way:Quote:
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, then climbed on top of him and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times before Zimmerman shot the unarmed 17-year-old to death, the Orlando Sentinel reported on Monday.
The Sentinel, citing unidentified authorities, said that is the account Zimmerman gave to police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses.
Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but on that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings, he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.
According to his version of events, the Sentinel said, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him from behind, the two exchanged words and then Martin punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him. Zimmerman, 28, told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.
Zimmerman's account became public on the same day the Miami Herald reported that when Martin was shot to death in February, he had been suspended from school for having marijuana residue in his book bag.
According to the Sentinel, here is what police disclosed to the newspaper:
Zimmerman was on his way to a grocery store when he saw Martin walking through his gated community.
Martin was visiting his father's fiancee, who lived there. Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Martin as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.
Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Martin on foot. When a dispatch
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hope this is a sad, twisted rumor , but I'm hearing the Obama camp is actually selling hoodies with " 2012 " on them.
http://www.progressiverags.com/obmi20blho.html
Probably just a coincidence
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... that there's all this national outrage over this one shooting ..."
The outrage is about the fact that it didn't even get an investigation. The outrage is about the police department giving a white man a pass for killing a black boy.
But some black people give the black kids who kill other black kids a pass as well.
Check out the various "Stop Snitchin'" and "No Snitch" campaigns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Snitchin%27
http://nosnitches.com/
I would suggest that the two problems are not unrelated. Decades of institutionalised discrimination and injustice has cultivated these attitudes in the black community - that the police are against them. And invariably this helps crime to flourish (see the film 'City of God' for a good view of this process from the beginning, in the early days of a Brazilian favela).
That's why the Trayvon Martin case (and others like it) is especially important. The perception in a community that the law is not there to protect them is very corrosive, and damaging.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Quote Niki: "I guess we can go on arguing about it until the cows
come home (as the rest of the country seems to be doing!), but I
doubt we'll ever know what really happened."
. . .All evidence is to be collected and brought before a grand jury.
Then maybe there'll be a trial. Evidence will be presented; witnesses
and Zimmerman will testify.
Some evidence, Zimmerman's physical condition and sobriety on that
night, has already been lost.
. . .With a trial, people could get closure, and our opinions would be
better informed.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Obama is a pathetic race baiter just like the vile and oft-disgraced race-opportunists Sharpton and Jackson. Funny how the President, once a notable Chicago organizer of sorts, never had a word to say about the 42 BLACK people shot in Chicago's Southside over a recent holiday weekend, including a six-year old girl who died from a drug driveby shooting. I guess Obama didn't think that little dead girl looked like his daughter. In their sick world, black on black crime is to either be ignored or accepted. Only whiteish skin is cause for alarm.
You're an idiot. Not even worth further comment, really.
Spoon!
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