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"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit

POSTED BY: Niki2
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Sunday, March 25, 2012 8:36 PM

"It remains folks who'll post anonymous stuff on a web forum."

And people who will only says such stuff to family, friends, and like-minded folk, giving and getting mutual sotto voce validation. Yeah, you said it. It doesn't make them less racist, or make them less numerous, it makes them less identifiable.

BTW - when blacks write the laws, run the justice system, and make up the law enforcement, then casually dismiss the stalking and murder of a young white man at the hands of a black man - you will see me just as outraged, just as furious. It's not about giving a pass to blacks, it's about holding police accountable to treat all people as equal under the law.

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"It remains folks who'll post anonymous stuff on a web forum."

And people who will only says such stuff to family, friends, and like-minded folk, giving and getting mutual sotto voce validation. Yeah, you said it. It doesn't make them less racist, or make them less numerous, it makes them less identifiable.




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OTOH any claims that it's anything other than 'still alive' haven't been made. And the only person implying it is you.



So which Kiki are you today?

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Monday, March 26, 2012 5:57 PM

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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:57 PM

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Calling it stalking fails every test against the law.

I wasn't using the word in the legal sense. I was using it in the ordinary meaning of the word sense:

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stalk
verb 
stalked, past participle; stalked, past tense; stalking, present participle; stalks, 3rd person singular present

1.Pursue or approach stealthily
- a cat stalking a bird



No one is arguing that Zimmerman should be arrested for 'stalking'; only that his actions could be legitimately construed by Martin as threatening - giving him a right to self defence.

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There was an eyewitness who said he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman.

On top of does not mean hitting. Let's not fill in the blanks. They could've been rolling in the grass, and for a moment Trayvon was on top. For all we know Zimmerman could've inflicted some, or all of his injuries on himself to bolster his self-defence claim.

I personally think it likely that Trayvon punched Zimmerman in the nose. I also think it likely that he had every right to, based on Zimmerman's actions. But we don't have all the facts yet, as the police for whatever reason decided not to thoroughly investigate and get to the bottom of what happened. I'm hopeful we can get the full picture in the future.


It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:28 PM

So let me get this straight.

An unintelligent member of the neighborhood watch(that had a troubled background) refuses to listen to police orders and thinks he will take the law in his own hands. When he approaches Treyvon he is not suspecting to get whupped by the alleged suspect. Treyvon a troubled young man with disiplinary problems(not the angelic "child" everyone is making him out to be) beats the living piss out Zimmerman. After Zimmerman crys out for help for a few seconds(which can be heard on a 911 call) in desperation takes his gun and shoots Treyvon.
The only race issue is that Zimmerman targeted a young black man thinking he was up to no good,did i mention Zimmerman is unintelligent?
Everything that happened after he approached him was spontanious, and chaotic. Zimmerman was an idiot, Treyvon a troublemaker.

Sound about right?

Good. I thought so.



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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:31 PM

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They could've been rolling in the grass
That's the one I've been wondering about. There's NO mention of any injuries to Trayvon, or whether HIS shirt had grass stains. Why not, I wonder? If they were fighting, surely Trayvon would have SOME indication of injury, even just scratches, or say bruises to his knuckles? Why has nobody said anything about that? It's not like his injuries could disappear...

I also wondered about someone who described his walking around and only gruffly responding after asked three times if everything was okay "call 911". Could be interpreted as someone who knows he might be in deep shit and was trying to figure out how to deal with it...while I don't think his knock on the back of the head could have been self-inflicted in the time allowed, he COULD have produced other 'injuries'.

Who knows?


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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:32 PM

Your interpretation of events is subjective, doesn't take facts into evidence, and assumes things not in evidence.

Sound about right?

Good. I thought so.


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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:11 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Your interpretation of events is subjective, doesn't take facts into evidence, and assumes things not in evidence.



At this point, that applies to just about everyone.

Somehow, it doesn't appear to prevent them from forming strong opinions, making accusations, and deciding innocence or guilt of all parties involved.

As noted elsewhere, Getting a relatively unbiased grand jury is going to be fun.

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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:17 PM

I'll be laughing when they describe Zimmeran as a "WHITE-hispanic",

cus you know...



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Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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They could've been rolling in the grass
That's the one I've been wondering about. There's NO mention of any injuries to Trayvon, or whether HIS shirt had grass stains. Why not, I wonder? If they were fighting, surely Trayvon would have SOME indication of injury, even just scratches, or say bruises to his knuckles? Why has nobody said anything about that? It's not like his injuries could disappear...



The Medical Examiner's report will indicate if Martin had any other injuries.

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