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"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit

POSTED BY: Niki2
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OONJERAH

Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:59 PM

Not saying this is true. Just sayin' I read it in the news.

Claim is that Z. fired only one shot. How'd they know?
Because the gun's clip was full. And some folks, after
they load a bullet into the chamber, remove the clip to
reload that bullet, giving them an extra shot if needed.

GEEZER

Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Will this ever change? Not until people stop claiming that "racism is dead in America".

Naziism isn't dead in America either. Does that make us all Nazis? Most of us? Many of us?

Or is it a concept that pretty much everyone realizes is wrong?

1KIKI

Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:21 PM

"Does that make us all Nazis? Most of us? Many of us?" Did anyone claim that 'all' USers are racists? Most? Many? Is that the argument you want us to think has been made? "Or is it a concept that pretty much everyone realizes is wrong?" Or is this strawmanning? Or an effort to derail the debate onto a non-existent side argument?

GEEZER

Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Does that make us all Nazis? Most of us? Many of us?" Did anyone claim that 'all' USers are racists? Most? Many? Is that the argument you want us to think has been made? "Or is it a concept that pretty much everyone realizes is wrong?" Or is this strawmanning? Or an effort to derail the debate onto a non-existent side argument?

What's the title of this thread, Kiki?

Does the fact that a Hispanic man shot a Black youth in less than clear circumstances mean that racism is alive and well in America?

When a Black youth allegedly shot and killed two visiting Englishmen in Sarasota Fl. a while ago, does that mean America is Anglophobic? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13110039

1KIKI

Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:17 PM

"Naziism isn't dead in America either. Does that make us all Nazis? Most of us? Many of us? Or is it a concept that pretty much everyone realizes is wrong?"
"What's the title of this thread, Kiki?"

Is 'alive and well' as you imply is meant different from 'not dead' as Niki posted?

Do you not know how to read? Or when someone claims racism is still alive (ie not dead) do you just automatically assume they mean thriving, robust, rampant?

B/c I think the claim that racism is not dead is pretty well established as true. OTOH any claims that it's anything other than 'still alive' haven't been made. And the only person implying it is you.

GEEZER

Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Is 'alive and well' as you imply is meant different from 'not dead' as Niki posted?

Based on Niki's comments, I'd say she considers racism "alive and well" and a "common occurrence" that's more than just an aberration of a few kooks.

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Nobody's posted about this one, perhaps because it represents a common enough occurrence that we don't pay much attention. But I've been following it, and it's not only outrageous, it's another example of the fact that racisim isn't only alive and well in America, it's allowed.

People on the right keep bitching about the left "playing the race card". It's not a card, it's a reality, and denying it is a political ploy, nothing else.

ANTHONYT

Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:30 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Is 'alive and well' as you imply is meant different from 'not dead' as Niki posted?

Based on Niki's comments, I'd say she considers racism a "common occurrence" that's more than just an aberration of a few kooks.

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Nobody's posted about this one, perhaps because it represents a common enough occurrence that we don't pay much attention. But I've been following it, and it's not only outrageous, it's another example of the fact that racisim isn't only alive and well in America, it's allowed.

People on the right keep bitching about the left "playing the race card". It's not a card, it's a reality, and denying it is a political ploy, nothing else.

Hello,

I think that any honest appraisal would place racism at more than 'a few kooks.' I wouldn't be surprised if those who would openly declare racial bias to friends would number in the millions.

--Anthony

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GEEZER

Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I think that any honest appraisal would place racism at more than 'a few kooks.' I wouldn't be surprised if those who would openly declare racial bias to friends would number in the millions.

Could be. It's Kiki who's arguing that Niki's ""Racism is dead in America." Bullshit" comment didn't mean Niki considers racism to be alive and well.

I have no doubt that there are racists of all persuasions out there. But the difference is that now they'll generally only express their views to the like-minded. That's something that has changed in my lifetime.

NIKI2

Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:19 PM

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Naziism isn't dead in America either. Does that make us all Nazis? Most of us? Many of us?

Or is it a concept that pretty much everyone realizes is wrong?

"Pretty much everyone"? I tend to disagree. From what I see and hear and read every day, there are DEFINITELY those who are quite comfortable with their racism and think it is fully justified. Not just against Blacks, but these days against Muslims, Hispanics and others. People don't talk about it OPENLY, because it's not PC. That doesn't mean they realize it's wrong. And there is no question they talk about it to others who think like them.

The kind of "Nazism" we have these days is limited to a few thousand very sad people--and their Nazism is racism, too, obviously. But there remain enough Americans who do believe Blacks (Muslims, Hispanics, etc.) are inferious, dangerous, etc., etc. that it is a continuing problem.

In case you missed it, because it's way back on page two, an eloquent illustration of this was posted. Comments on Trayvon's murder:

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What a shame—a tragedy, really— because the dead lil’ gangsta could’ve used “‘A-FIRM-TIV AK-SHUN” to go to kollige an play footballz and make lotsa cash munny!”

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Fast and Furious didn’t work to pass new gun control so now Eric Holder will try the race card.

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No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 45 years a large segment of bIack America has waged a war of v i o l e n t retribution against white America.

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Zimmerman was attacked by the man and defended himself with a gun. Zimmerman’s wounds were verified by police.

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17 = child. LOL!!!!!!

Let the LIB word games begin.

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Yet the “justice department” refuses to prosecute any voter intimidation that involves a blac k as the intimidator.

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Why should anyone care about this kid? Because he is of color? People don’t value kids period. They are property. BTW, I am a conservative that cares a great deal about kids. We follow hundreds of cases each year, many white babies and children, none of them get attention. But he does??

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Zimmerman felt threatened by Martin’s gang’s actions…this could have possibly lead to these terrible circumstances. Gang violence MUST BE STOPPED OBAMA!

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Blacks can do no wrong, period! That is the DOJ’s excuse for becoming involved. 50+ years of being told they are special and entitled and the gov’t’s only focus is to make it so!!

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In any event, it appears to be a case of one sc u m bag Cuban-type (Zimmerman) offing some scummy b l a ck kid (Trayyy-Vonnnn)…in some trash neighborhood….

but now, because the dead kid’s a kneegrow, we have:

the BIG BAD FBI on this “important” case…and

the usual BLACK-RADICAL-PROTESTERS who can’t mind their own business!

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Gated communities exist because people are afraid….& negros thrive on crime…Look at our prisons.

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Need that too….But Negr0s only have their welfare checks….and in any event can’t follow rules

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What time do the riots start? Gotta get my popcorn and munchies ready for the “hood” burning!

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Funny you never see them rally against the drug dealing murderers that control their neighborhoods. LOL!!!

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How does anyone know what this 17 yr old said, Most likely he threw the race card out ” you stop me because I*M B L ACK” and then became threatning. The media alway plants the seed of doubt when when a B l ac k is sh ot by a caucasian

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maybe his gang brothers incited violence too?

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How’d the kid get into the “gated” community in the first place?

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Them monkeys can jump!

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This is going to be a tough case. gang viole

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GEEZER

Sunday, March 25, 2012 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Those are only a tiny fraction of the American people who think like them. And you say it's something most of us know is wrong? "Most" of us, perhaps, but the volume of those who do NOT think it's wrong remains enormous.

It remains folks who'll post anonymous stuff on a web forum.

Seen any "We agree with Zimmerman" rallies on the news? Folks getting out and showing their faces in support of the shooting? No.

Seen multitudes of folks of all races getting out to support further action in the investigation? Well, yes.

The folks who are racist, and who'd be right up front about it when you and I were kids, realize that the tide has turned against them. They know that they'd better be quiet or face disapproval (or possible prosecution), and know that they are on the way out. I can see it where I live, when kids of all races hang out together with no problem. Another generation or so, and the racists will be that few thousand "very sad" folks.