The plot thickens
POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37
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I also think it's a very bad idea. What I've read about them is that they seem to be more interested in grabbing headlines than changing minds. The one mitigating aspect of their statement is that they want to turn Zimmerman in to Federal authorities.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... that there's all this national outrage over this one shooting ..."
The outrage is about the fact that it didn't even get an investigation. The outrage is about the police department giving a white man a pass for killing a black boy.
But some black people give the black kids who kill other black kids a pass as well.
Check out the various "Stop Snitchin'" and "No Snitch" campaigns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Snitchin%27
http://nosnitches.com/
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... that there's all this national outrage over this one shooting ..."
The outrage is about the fact that it didn't even get an investigation. The outrage is about the police department giving a white man a pass for killing a black boy.
But some black people give the black kids who kill other black kids a pass as well.
Check out the various "Stop Snitchin'" and "No Snitch" campaigns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Snitchin%27
http://nosnitches.com/
Which goes to show that it's learned culture, and not 'race' or skin color, that is causing so much of the problems here.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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That's a HIDEOUS idea! Just imagine the myriad ways that Black Panther thing could make it worse boggles the mind.
I think this is getting attention because it's kind of, one thing builds on another and somewhere there's a tipping point. This may be it. I hope not. I hope something comes out that gets Zimmerman prosecuted; otherwise it's heaping more on the fire.
Dunno if my post disappeared, but last night apparently the police chief said Zimmerman told them at the time that he had lost sight of Trayvon, was headed back to his truck, when Trayvon jumped him. I find this both incredibly hard to believe, and am very suspicious of it only coming out NOW, a month after the incident and a long time after the nation has been paying attention.
As to the first tape, Zimmerman was whispering, which I thought was why it sounded like it did. I think there's enough hinky stuff in this whole thing that it doesn't matter one way or another; and it certainly won't be considered "evidence" anyway.
Whole things sucks. I hope they sort it out before things get worse. I think Zimmerman belongs in jail; any way you look at it, he instigated the situation, and, sorry to prejudge, but from what I hear this has been going on for a long time now, many deaths have resulted, and I believe people like Zimmerman have come to believe they can get away with anything they want. I think someone finally thought he could get away with it and it blew up in his face, and brought national attention. Now the nation has to deal with the consequences, 'cuz nobody can close their eyes anymore.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
But some black people give the black kids who kill other black kids a pass as well.
Check out the various "Stop Snitchin'" and "No Snitch" campaigns.
Well, a great part of that is because of the police being effectively one more street gang and another set of predators instead of protectors.
Sure, while there's an institutional level of corruption within ghetto culture and community, folks tend to forget there is an equal if not greater level of the same amongst the so-called protectors, and this causes a crapload of needless problems.
So to THEM, it's more like a Crip ratting out his buddies to the Bloods, cause the police are seen as just another faction rather than honest neutrals, which for the most part they ain't - if you ain't watched The Wire, you really ought to.
I didn't just watch it, I had to LIVE it, being in that area during some of the events that show is based on - when you got no honest brokers on the scene, you gotta play the game whether you want to or not, just to survive.
Around here though...
Nobody much cares if you deal, or steal - but you start capping rounds you'll piss EVERYONE off, and they *will* roll your ass, no one likes the idea of bullets whizzing through the neighborhood, although if you handle it phsyically so long as one is discreet and there was some cause any backlash will be limited to their allies and friends.
Not to mention how it works with this place - sure, we're across the street from a rough place, but stepping on this turf is gonna start something with me, and harming me in any way will then lead to the ENTIRE neighborhood down on them, plus all the folk who prefer the devil they know since so long as you keep your troubles off the property I care nothin about em, so it's just not worth it for the pitiful take you'd wind up with regardless.
Beyond all that, there's the waste of resources on petty ante bullshit, AND the very real possibility that the cops will take their frustrations out on the one who called em instead of doing anything about it, so generally no one is going to take that risk unless the crime in question is worth it, which it mostly ain't - unless you go spraying lead, in which case the 911 switchboard is gonna light up like a damn xmas tree cause NO one likes that.
It's a rough form of detente and diplomacy, but it is there, never think it ain't.
As for outrages, this one landed on my desk this morning, and there's all kind of major suck to it.
El Cajon woman dies after beating earlier in week
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/24/el-cajon-woman-dies-after-b
eating-earlier-week/
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EL CAJON — An Iraqi immigrant and mother of five died Saturday of injuries from a severe beating in her El Cajon home, where a note warning the family to “go back to your own country” was left next to her.
El Cajon police said they are investigating the possibility of a hate crime.
Intolerance is a special kind of stupid, it really is.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Thanx, Mal4, I'll look for it. I'm glad it's getting SOME attention, I thought it was so weird. The "stand your ground" thing applies BEST to Trayvon, since he wasn't doing anything and it was Zimmerman who accosted HIM...but nobody seemed to be paying attention to that!
(raise hand) I mostly agreed with Raptor too, hey, hey! ;o)
Actually it would not apply until until you are attacked. Just felling threatened is not enough according to the law. That being said Martin's conversation with his girlfriend seems to indicate that Zimmerman did physically engage Martin first. Which also means Zimmerman's actions do not meet the standard of the law to claim self-defense.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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When blacks write the laws, run the justice system, and make up the law enforcement, then casually dismiss the stalking and murder of a young white man at the hands of a black man - you will see me just as outraged, just as furious. It's not about giving a pass to blacks, it's about holding police accountable to treat all people as equal under the law.
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. . .Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head =>
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-
zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager
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. . ."With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the
Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed
the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George
Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him
bloody and battered, law-enforcement authorities told the
Orlando Sentinel.
"Police have been reluctant to provide details about their evidence."
Oonj: I am well aware that Trayvon's gf overheard something quite different.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
But some black people give the black kids who kill other black kids a pass as well.
Check out the various "Stop Snitchin'" and "No Snitch" campaigns.
This is why the homicide rate is so high among many young African Americans. They refuse to "snitch" preferring to handle things "street justice" style. In other words, one murder equals a retaliatory murder. Eye for an eye so to speak. It has gotten to a fever pitch around here, damn near Detorit levels.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
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. . .Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head =>
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-
zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager
..
. . ."With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the
Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed
the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George
Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him
bloody and battered, law-enforcement authorities told the
Orlando Sentinel.
"Police have been reluctant to provide details about their evidence."
Oonj: I am well aware that Trayvon's gf overheard something quite different.
How would Trayvon's gf have overheard something different, when one of the 2 who were there is saying he was jumped ?
Just askin', is all.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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