War Stories

POSTED BY: HotForKaylee
UPDATED: Monday, February 16, 2004 03:37
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LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, December 7, 2002 3:18 AM

Oh, yeah, WEEKS ago, after Ariel, I was all Like, "I think River is like a agent out to get Blue Sun, and someday, she's gonna snap and take out some Blue Sun stuff that isn't on a label or a shirt." And there were others that were all, "You are strange and off-putting and I think you're wrong." Yeah, well this latest ep lends alot to my whole Spike-Ain't-The-Only-Brainwashed-Time-Bomb Theory, don't it?

And I really think this show is having a negitave effect on my grammar.

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No, this is left over from every army movie I've ever seen, but it makes sense.

MELEE

Saturday, December 7, 2002 3:43 AM

I LOVED this episode! Hopefully, this will lay to rest anyone's doubts about Zoe's feelings for Wash... they may be an odd match, but she loves the guy. Adored how she had absolutely no hesitation about who to choose. The end scene was great too... Mal and Zoe are so mean! Pickin' on my poor Wash!

Jayne was a riot this episode too! ("I'll be in my bunk." *snigger*)

Favorite lines:

"Him. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Sorry, do you want to finish?"

"This is somethin' the captain needs to do on his own."
"No! No it ain't!"
"Oh."

Zoe's completely deadpanning "Take me sir, take me hard." This one had me laughing so hard my sides hurt, and Jaynes reaction too. In fact, this whole scene was just hilarious... the fact that Mal and Zoe looked a bit uncomfortable with the whole kissing thing (Zoe looked like she was hoping Wash'd intturupt so she wouldn't have to do it, hehe).

"We'll be in our bunk." Is it just me, or did Zoe smirk on her way out?

Loved the little bit of homage to "Our Mrs Reynolds" with Zoe cooking.

Loved Wash and Zoe trading knicknames in their little fight. ("Lamby toes"? *choke*)

My suspicion has been for a while that they made River into some killing machine. Tonight only fuled thoughs thoughts!

Overall, great episode, loved finally having a lot of Wash/Zoe interaction... now I just wanna know the details of how they went from "He bothers me." to getting married. Hey JOSS! Keep Wash and Zoe together and happy! Pretty please! I'll sell you my soul! Wait... I sold my soul for a dime last year... gorram... well... *thinks* Hey Joss, do you respond to chiken sacrifice?

DARKANGELSLAYER

Saturday, December 7, 2002 4:07 AM

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Boy, not to scare anyone but I was just checking out the FOX Firefly board and they have this awful discussion going on about Inara's scene with a woman. Theres bible verses and all sorts of derogatory terms beeing thrown around for gay and bisexual people. The world can be a scary place sometimes.

So true.

DARKLADY

Saturday, December 7, 2002 4:43 AM

Is anyone else thinking that was a "Mulan" reference in "War Stories"?

I've heard rumors that Joss is fond of the movie and then he goes and references an insane warlord named Shan-Yu, who also happened to be the bad guy in "Mulan"?

I'm smelling something beyond a coincidence!

DL

KEF

Saturday, December 7, 2002 4:48 AM

How about-

Simon: I never shot anyone before.

Book: I was there son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

This show so just SO addictive!

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Saturday, December 7, 2002 4:54 AM

Am I the only one that found it visually stunning how when River was fireing the gun, her hair was hiding her face. We don't know what her expression was. Both badass and creepy all in one! Love love love this show.

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We need to resort to cannibalism.

KEF

Saturday, December 7, 2002 4:56 AM

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Originally posted by LivingImpaired:
Am I the only one that found it visually stunning how when River was fireing the gun, her hair was hiding her face. We don't know what her expression was. Both badass and creepy all in one! Love love love this show.

When River took the gun from Kaylee, she said to herself, "Can't look. Can't look."

KURUKAMI

Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:52 PM

But she did take a quick peek around the corner to check out their locations before taking the shots. For some reason, I find myself flashing back to a little subplot in another show, "Alias", last season. There was a guy who had been programmed to respond to certain code phrases -- say the right words, and he'd do anything you told him to, even kill. Say them again, and he'd completely lose all memory of what he'd done. (Of course, the guy's memories started seeping back, making him think he was nuts, and we finally met him inside an asylum, but...)

Anyways, the scene with River at the airlock makes me think of that. Perhaps she was trained as an assassin, yes -- but one which was completely undetectable, and that moreover couldn't betray her part in any plot because she didn't remember it. That one line -- "Can't look, can't look..." -- implied a lot more than a multiple personality disorder (one persona kills, while the other is terrified and wants to look away) to my eyes.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kurukami:
But she did take a quick peek around the corner to check out their locations before taking the shots. For some reason, I find myself flashing back to a little subplot in another show, "Alias", last season. There was a guy who had been programmed to respond to certain code phrases -- say the right words, and he'd do anything you told him to, even kill. Say them again, and he'd completely lose all memory of what he'd done. (Of course, the guy's memories started seeping back, making him think he was nuts, and we finally met him inside an asylum, but...)

Anyways, the scene with River at the airlock makes me think of that. Perhaps she was trained as an assassin, yes -- but one which was completely undetectable, and that moreover couldn't betray her part in any plot because she didn't remember it. That one line -- "Can't look, can't look..." -- implied a lot more than a multiple personality disorder (one persona kills, while the other is terrified and wants to look away) to my eyes.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

I like that theory, but for the fact that isn't that the exact same thing they're doing on Buffy right now? Only for that reason, do I believe its something different.

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"Very occasionally, if you really pay attention, life doesn't suck." -- Joss Whedon

IDEFIX

Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:39 PM

can't it be, that she's just a nice little girl that doesn't want to kill people but has the ability to and sees the necessity too?
Kaylee wanted to kill those men but she simply couln't. and River said she can't look but shot them without looking. I think she just wanted to help and she has the ability to read peoples minds and sometimes see the future, so why not a terrible good aim without even looking?
makes her a nice backup weapon for the crew. as long as no one has a blue sun t-shirt on.

and I think Zoe didn't choose Wash because he is her husband and she can't live without him or something. Zoe isn't the overly romantik type. she's a soldier. she's seen war. she doesn't think that way. she chose him because she knew Mal would live if she left him there but Wash would break without Mal and be dead or insane before they could come up with a second plan. it was a pragmatic choice. and Wash knew he'd be dead or insane if it wasn't for Mal. Zoe knows them both very well, so I suspect she knew too.

think about the situation reversed. what if Niska had captured Zoe and Wash, and Mal would have to chose whom to get free. I'm sure he'd choose Wash too. not because he loves him or something but for the same reason Zoe did. he'd know he has the chance to come for Zoe later because she could stand some torture. she's seen it all before.

just my two euro-cent
Idefix

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