2 American NATO troops dead in Afghanistan as locals rage at US's proper burning of Quran
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I think it a bit out of sorts for you Anthony, given how often I bitch about it.
Hello,
"Our churches don't make the rules, except sometimes in certain places in violation of the principles of this country" didn't rhyme as well.
--Anthony
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Signe just called Raptor intellectually challenged. Lame.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Quote:You don't even understand my point.
Yes, yes. I disagree w/ your point, ergo, I must be stupid. *yawn* Got anything else ?
Quote:The smart thing to do would be to bow and scrape all the way out the door. We're in their countries. If we wanted to change them, we would have to heavily occupy them for two or three decades and sink a lot more money into development than we can currently afford (like the way we changed Japan and Germany). Or we should take the slower trade-and-aid approach. But half-assed military occupations don't help anyone. All they do is serve as a constant irritant and allow the host nation to focus the population's ire on the occupation instead of noticing the piss-poor job the native government is doing.
Apologizing sure hasn't helped matters. But I guess in your view, that was clearly the 'smart' thing to do, right ?
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Signe just called Raptor intellectually challenged. Lame.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
The truth hurts.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by SignyM:
The smart thing to do would be to bow and scrape all the way out the door.
Absolutely the WORST thing we could do. But Obama seems up for the job, so what the hell, right ?
And yes, I understand your point. I just don't happen to agree. But clearly, anyone who doesn't agree w/ you MUST be mentally challenged.
Got it.
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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
And yet Obama doesn't feel like he should apologize to catholic organizations who he is making violate their religious beliefs.
What religious beliefs is he "making" Catholics violate? Is he trying to stop them from raping young boys? I know how that really annoys Catholics when they can't rape children... Mormons get annoyed by it, too.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
So; Outside of the US we follow their religious instructions, people die when there's a total chimp out because we're following the rules of their religion, and our president apologizes and bows towards Mecca.
Inside the US we make religious organizations break their religious rules, there's a protest, the protesters are told to shut up and like it, and the president doesn't have to do anything.
Got it.
Wow. Not a single true thing was said in that entire post!
Congrats, Troll; you've truly earned your name!
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I haven't read anything about them having "writing" in them, merely that they weren't recognized as Korans.
I'm curious, which news outlets are you relying on.
NPR or MSNBC ?
" The unrest started Tuesday, when Afghan workers at the sprawling Bagram air base noticed that Qurans and other Islamic texts were in the trash that coalition troops dumped into a pit where garbage is burned. Some Afghan workers burned their fingers as they tried to salvage some of the books. Afghan government officials said initial reports indicated four Qurans were burned.
The materials had been taken from a library at Parwan Detention Facility, which adjoins the base, because they contained extremist messages or inscriptions. Writing inside a Quran is forbidden in the Islamic faith, although it was unclear whether the handwritten messages were found in the holy book or other reading materials.
A military official said it appeared that detainees at the prison were exchanging messages by making notations in the texts."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10111369
Your own cite says it was unclear whether the messages were found in the holy book. You even underlined that part.
Why? To undermine your claim?
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The smart thing to do would be to bow and scrape all the way out the door.- Signy
Absolutely the WORST thing we could do. But Obama seems up for the job, so what the hell, right ?-Rappy
RAPPY, what are we doing in Afghanistan? Seriously. Or Pakistan, or Somalia, or the Sudan? What vital interests are we protecting? Since when did it become our national policy to fight radical Islam anywhere and everywhere? And what good is it doing us?
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:I would say the same thing about Iraq and Libya except the numbers would be higher. Iraq? Not an existential threat, ever, and not the source of 9-11. (We can thank the Saudis for that, who also funded the Taliban and the more extreme elements of the Pakistani ISI.) Libya? What did they ever do to us?
30 now dead, hundreds injured... and for what ?
Surely there must be SOME compelling reason, something to justify why we killed a least a hundred thousand people and spent trillions of dollars! Seems to be so must dust in the wind, pretty much like the fuss being raised in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Seems like everyone is behaving like idiots.
I just love how , so often on the Left, we see folks pivot away from the issue at hand, and bring up completely different , separate points, to avoid having to deal w/ the specifics. In THIS case, the errant burning of some defaced Qurans, which were, by the Muslims own customs, desecrated and made unclean.
They shouldn't have been burned, they were mixed up with other religious material, which also had been written in , and which could have lead to the confusion... and yet multiple apologies by our President and god knows how many others have been met with 4 Americans killed, along w/ scores of others killed or injured.
What if we had simply said...
" The books had been desecrated , by fellow Muslims, and we burned them. If you have a problem with that, we'll be willing for you to tell us how to handle them next time, should the need arise again. Thank you. "
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
The "issue at hand" is that we invaded their country, and now we've burned their holy book.
I have a sneaking suspicion that if our country were invaded and occupied, and the invaders then started taking bibles out of churches and burning them, you just MIGHT see a similar backlash, up to and including killing some of the occupiers.
And you'd call anyone who did such a thing a "great American".
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