You believe Muslims are scary, dangerous people
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 17:06
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
If the Moslem God, called Allah, is imaginary ...
Is the Christian/Hebrew God, called Jaweh or Jehovah, also imaginary?
Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.
That's my opinion. Your view may vary.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by SignyM:
What is it, specifically, that YOU would find troubling about living under Sharia law?
Bump for SignyM's response to the answers given.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Give that so many people would have a problem living under Sharia law, I wonder how you feel about this?
Santorum says he doesn't believe in separation of church and state- Quote:
Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum said Sunday that he doesn't believe in the separation of church and state, adding that he was sickened by John F. Kennedy's assurances to Baptist ministers 52 years ago that he would not impose his Catholic faith on them.
"I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute," Santorum, a devout Catholic, said in an interview from Michigan on ABC's "This Week."
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That's interesting. He was sickened by JFK's assurances to Baptist ministers, eh? But "baptists" are one of the offshoots wher evangelicals are found, and Catholicism is considered a "cult"by many evangelicals, yes? So why was he offended by a catholic telling his "sect" he wouldn't impose his religion? I'm confused.
It gets hard to tell the players apart sometimes, there is so much division in Christianity, and some of them don't recognize others, while they're fine with still others, it gets confusing. Religion....bah.
It also speaks pretty clearly to the fact that if he were elected President, he feels just find about his being able to impose HIS religion on the nation, n'est pas?
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Geezer, before I give a COMPLETE answer, I have to look up Sharia law. Most people here including many who responded don't understand it well. I have heard, but have not had the time to look it up, that many of the practices that westerners find most abhorrent are actually not sourced in the Qu'ran or the sunnah (the two most authoritative sources of Allah's word) but in local practices and customs. It would be the same as looking at some hillbilly feud and assuming that represented the state of USA jurisprudence. So I suspect that many of our views of Sharia law are distorted. For example, when rappy answers "everything" that is really just a code-word for "I don't know dick about it so I'll substitute a vague generalization to fill in my utter lack of specific knowledge".
However, as far as I have looked up, there ARE certain things about Sharia law which I would have big problems with. Because of the things that are specifically prescribed (prayers, a trip to Mecca, fasting etc) most of them have to do with accepting Allah as god. As a non-believer, I would have a hard time getting along in such a system.
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I have to compare that to our right-wing evangelicals, like Santorum and the (mostly) Protestant contingent.
If they had to bow down to Mecca five times a day, it would be enuf to make them blow their brains out. OTOH, they handle currency which has "In God We Trust" imprinted on it. The same statement was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956, just as "under God" was added to the Pledge in 1954.
If you read the original Declaration of Independence AND the Constitution, there is NO mention of god anywhere, and there is only one reference to a creator. This is not an accident. Jefferson was against the Thanksgiving holiday because it was religiously framed; he would be banging his head against a wall if he heard our modern-day evangelical politicians talking about how our nation was founded and why it was written as it was. To me, one is as offensive as another, no matter than O'Reilly blubbers on about the "war on Christmas".
To expand on that a little... if one REALLY wants to test one's tolerance for "religion in government", one must be able to accept ALL religious expressions in ALL government support, no matter how indirect. So putting up a nativity scene (on government property) would also allow the menorah, the crescent moon, and the elephant god ganesah, as well as prayer flags and animistic representations. If a person cannot tolerate one specific religious symbol, perhaps there should not be ANY.
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"I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute,"
Hello,
I stand with all those opposed to Sharia Law in opposing this candidate's dangerous position.
I know from the content in this thread that Mr. Raptor and Mr. Hero are incensed at the mere idea of this, and will join me in their opposition.
--Anthony
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This is a thread about fear: what we are afraid of and why.
I believe that SOME Muslims are scary, dangerous people. They will stop at nothing to spread their particular sect. They are True Believers.
OTOH, I find MANY people to be scary when it comes to their faith, and a lot of them are much better armed than a bunch terrorists with homemade bombs and box-cutters. Some of them are able to use a government's power... with its police force and army... to impose THEIR view of how the world "should" be on others. Look at Pakistan... It HAS "the bomb". Look at the USA, WE have "the bomb", and we have killed people by the hundreds of thousands to further our cause (whatever that is). So in the realm of "what is to be feared", I fear the entity with the biggest gun the most, and anyone who does not is not looking at the world clearly.
The USA has an ethical code. While it is BASED on western religion and common law, it is not religious. The assumptions that our law is based on emphasize individualism and freedom. There is nothing wrong with our ethical code... it is what our society and economy is based on... but it doesn't need religion to prop it up. People who run from one belief system into the waiting arms of another are merely trading one master for another.
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Signe, I can't believe you actually had to ask that question, I mean duh. But I was surprised at how many people really examined it and specifically said what they wouldn't like. My answer is What They Said. They covered the basics, lack of ability to express religeous freedom, a lack of rights for the everywoman, censorship of movies/books/information, way too harsh punishments for crimes, or perceived crimes. Plus I love pork and I love having my hair down and being able to wear clothes that show that I'm all woman. :) I know that's minor, but as I said everyone already covered the major stuff.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Most people don't know what Sharia law is. As I read it, it is very similar to Orthodox Judaism in many ways. Hell, they (Jews) can go on and on about whether it is allowed to cut the beard with a blade (razor. The answer is "no") or scissors (two blades, the answer is "yes").
What people really rebel against from Islam, they will accept its equivalence from Xtianity or Judaism. Israel, for example, is a theocracy, and is just as harsh on its Muslim residents as Iran is on its non-Muslim residents. In fact, while Jews can travel from Iran to Israel, they cannot travel from Israel to Iran. And while people here hate the idea of a theocracy in far-off places, many don't seem to react as badly against Santorum and the right-wing here in the USA who push creationism in our education system instead of science and who seem to want to turn our schools into Xtian madrassas.
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