That lovely, peaceful religion of peace...

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:

A 1 minute search. Do you think there's a pattern here? Santorum and other christian fundamentalists in the US may talk a hard line, but they're not bombing mosques or temples or abducting islamics and jews.

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No, they're saving their bombs for abortion clinics, aren't they?

And elsewhere hardline "christians" are murdering people for the crime of being "the ghey". And they're doing with with the tacit - if not the EXPLICIT - support and aid of hardliners here who'd like nothing more than to enact the same kinds of laws here.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:

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No armed person can be a victim unless they will it.

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Hello,

That's rather patently false. Being armed only improves your chances of resistance. It does not guarantee that you won't be victimized.

Armed people are victimized every day.

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You fail to perceive the difference between being victimized and being a victim.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

No, they're saving their bombs for abortion clinics, aren't they?

And elsewhere hardline "christians" are murdering people for the crime of being "the ghey". And they're doing with with the tacit - if not the EXPLICIT - support and aid of hardliners here who'd like nothing more than to enact the same kinds of laws here.

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Links please.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:

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No armed person can be a victim unless they will it.

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Hello,

That's rather patently false. Being armed only improves your chances of resistance. It does not guarantee that you won't be victimized.

Armed people are victimized every day.

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You fail to perceive the difference between being victimized and being a victim.

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vic·tim (vktm)
n.
1. One who is harmed or killed by another: a victim of a mugging.

vic·tim·ize (vkt-mz)
tr.v. vic·tim·ized, vic·tim·iz·ing, vic·tim·iz·es
1. To subject to swindle or fraud.
2. To make a victim of.





Hello,

It seems pretty clear that someone who is victimized is made into a victim. A victim is one who is harmed or killed by another.

Wearing the white hat and having a gun doesn't mean you're not victimized. It doesn't mean you're not a victim. It means you had a cause and a chance. Not all causes succeed and not all chances end in your favor.

A gun isn't magic. It's just a tool. You can lose, and you can be a victim, even with a righteous cause and an arsenal at your disposal. Even though you might be valiant, brave, and strong. You can still be a victim.

There's no magic in this world that blesses the righteous and punishes the wicked. Look to the next world for that.

--Anthony

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
CaveTroll - your search turned up the same web site. Looking at their site it appears like they may not be the most objective source:

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Are any of the linked sources demonstrably false? If you are objecting to their spin, everyone puts spin on stories. If they're all linked from the same source you can at least subtract the spin.

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I'd like to see spin relegated to the dustbin of history... It seemed like you were trying to suggest with all of those links that the proof was widespread, from many sources, when it was really from the same source, and one with a clear agenda.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
I take it you couldn't be troubled to look up jizyah?

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I confess I didn't get the connection from what I read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

Under Islamic law, jizya or jizyah (Arabic: جزية‎ ǧizyah IPA: [dʒizja]; Ottoman Turkish: cizye; both derived from Pahlavi and possibly from Aramaic gaziyat[1]) is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria.

A tax on Christians?

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
And yes, christians can be zealots too. Fortunately we have the 1st amendment to control zealotry here. And when that fails we have the 2nd amendment.

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What does everyone else have?



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No armed person can be a victim unless they will it.

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What a crazy statement! Of COURSE they can; they are every day, all over the country!

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Fortunately we have the 1st amendment to control zealotry here. And when that fails we have the 2nd amendment.

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Also a ridiculous statement. Neither amendment has stopped all the killing of gays, bombing of abortion clinics, murdering of doctors, terrorism and violence against gays AND those in any way involved in clinics which provide abortions (like receptionists...), and all the other heinous crimes committed against "the other" in this country. The advocacy of that, the publishing of the addresses of the victims and exhortations of "get 'em!", etc., tells its own story.

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