Iran threatens Europe
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/world/europe/iran-says-it-will-cut-o
il-supplies-to-6-european-nations.html?hp
"Besieged by international sanctions over the Iranian nuclear program including a planned oil embargo by Europe, Iran warned its six largest European buyers on Wednesday that it might strike first by immediately cutting them off from Iranian oil."
"In Tehran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad presided over ceremonies to mark advances in Iran’s nuclear program, partly to project an image of Iranian defiance against the Western sanctions. The new advances include centrifuges that Iran said were capable of enriching uranium at a much faster rate, and the insertion of the first domestically produced nuclear fuel rod into a nuclear reactor in Tehran.
“The era of bullying nations has past,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said in a televised broadcast of the ceremony. “The arrogant powers cannot monopolize nuclear technology. They tried to prevent us by issuing sanctions and resolutions but failed.”
This guy is making it easy for nations to hate him.
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Hello,
It's their oil. They can do with it what they like. I don't see the problem.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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They can eat that oil, for all I care.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Awww, ain't it a pity, when they DO IT BACK everyone acts like it's such a tragedy, whinewhinewhimper....
*hissss*
You wanna talk about fekkin entitlement issues, there ya go, on a national scale.
Worse is the damned attitudes about it, it's THEIR stuff, if they don't WANT to sell it to us, they have that right, in a moral sense...
In a physical sense, they've gotta ENFORCE it, and our own behavior has shown there's really only one way to do that.
Were I Putin, I would publicly ship them an ICBM, complete with bells, whistles and a parade on worldwide television - not only would that put a stop to it, I am SURE they'd be happy to continue servicing his country as they cut the rest of us malicious bastards off.
And oh what a PITY that would be....
*makes littlest violin gestures*
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Too bad none of us have a say in the outcome.
Iran with a nuke is bad world mojo - not because it isn't fair (there's no fair in international politics!), it's because too many people will do too much to make sure they don't get one and guess who will ultimately pay for that? You and me and plenty of innocent Iranians. So yippy, more stupidity.
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
It's their oil. They can do with it what they like. I don't see the problem.
It's not that simple of course, nations rise and fall and go to war for oil. I know, you'd think people would plan so it's not a problem, but it's just not like that. If you are for a destabilized region (even more so) then this is fine, but if you'd like to see some kind of bigger thinking used toward peace just one time in the area, this isn't it.
I liked this comment after the article:
"I'm not sure that this threat has significant consequences. If Iran withholds oil from the European market, and sells it somewhere else, that frees up an equivalent amount of oil in the world market for Europe to buy. It represents a redistribution of supply, but not a change in overall quantity. The implicit message here is that Iran's economy would be in peril if a complete embargo was enacted. They need to sell oil to survive."
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
It's their oil. They can do with it what they like. I don't see the problem.
It's not that simple of course, nations rise and fall and go to war for oil. I know, you'd think people would plan so it's not a problem, but it's just not like that. If you are for a destabilized region (even more so) then this is fine, but if you'd like to see some kind of bigger thinking used toward peace just one time in the area, this isn't it.
Hello,
It really is that simple. Or it ought to be. The governments concerned with regional stability are often partially responsible for destabilizing it. Not leaving these people alone is a plan that's going to bite us.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
It's their oil. They can do with it what they like. I don't see the problem.
It's not that simple of course, nations rise and fall and go to war for oil. I know, you'd think people would plan so it's not a problem, but it's just not like that. If you are for a destabilized region (even more so) then this is fine, but if you'd like to see some kind of bigger thinking used toward peace just one time in the area, this isn't it.
I liked this comment after the article:
"I'm not sure that this threat has significant consequences. If Iran withholds oil from the European market, and sells it somewhere else, that frees up an equivalent amount of oil in the world market for Europe to buy. It represents a redistribution of supply, but not a change in overall quantity. The implicit message here is that Iran's economy would be in peril if a complete embargo was enacted. They need to sell oil to survive."
They need to sell oil to survive, and if I'm not wrong, they only need one paying customer in order to do so.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Hello,
As far as I'm concerned, any attempt to complicate this issue must begin with the premise, "It's not their oil."
I don't think that's a case anyone can make, so things remain blindingly simple to me.
--Anthony
_______________________________________________
"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
As far as I'm concerned, any attempt to complicate this issue must begin with the premise, "It's not their oil."
I don't think that's a case anyone can make, so things remain blindingly simple to me.
--Anthony
_______________________________________________
"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
Yup. I can't remember seeing the thread titled "Europe Threatens Iran" when they were talking about sanctions and embargoes against Iran. Yet somehow Iran is now "threatening" Europe by saying they might not sell Europe what Europe says it might not buy.
Awesome.
I'm sure the die-hard free-market capitalists in here can explain to me why Iran has no say who buys their oil or who they sell to.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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