Imponderables- Jump right in , there's room for everyone!!!

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LILI

Tuesday, February 7, 2012 3:00 AM

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Also the one where they are having sex and she quotes Yoda ( Do or Do not there is no try)

That's what led to him saying he loved her so she freaked out and dumped him, right?
That's another thing I like about the show, it doesn't follow a lot of gender role stereotypes common in sitcoms. Like Penny being afraid of commitment and Bernadette not wanting to have children or be a housewife. (Her line a few weeks ago about how Howard was welcome to stay home with the children while she had conversations with adults her own age and enjoyed her life was absolutely priceless in her squeaky little voice.)

Facts are stubborn things.

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, February 7, 2012 3:37 AM

I've always wondered if the actress who plays Bernadette really sounds like that or if she exaggerates it for the show.

I used to have a problem with people diagnosing sitcom charactors, he says he's not crazy his mom had him tested so lets just go with that. But I've gotten to the place where I don't really care anymore if people diagnose them.

Yeah Thurs.'s episode was funny, my dad fell asleep while we were watching it though so he missed it, woke up at the end and said he recalled none of it. Oh well he can see it again on rerun.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

LILI

Tuesday, February 7, 2012 8:08 AM

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I've always wondered if the actress who plays Bernadette really sounds like that or if she exaggerates it for the show.

She does not sound like that. I listened to a Nerdist podcast that was a Big Bang panel at Comic Con, and I would never have guessed it was the same woman if they hadn't said she played Bernadette.

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...he says he's not crazy his mom had him tested so lets just go with that.

Sheldon's mom may have had him tested (though we should all remember that she's a stereotypical woman of God from Texas who probably took him to a preacher shrink or something) and it's entirely likely that he isn't crazy, but that doesn't mean he can't have Asperger's. "Crazy" has very specific connotations, and if I understand Asperger's correctly it's a condition characterized by a degree of social ineptitude (such as not recognizing sarcasm, facial expressions, or body language) and is often accompanied by high levels of intellect (such as, for example, being a theoretical physicist who receives a doctorate at the age of 16) or skill. Sheldon fits this criteria fairly well. As I said, this wouldn't make him "crazy" because it isn't some form of psychosis or personality disorder. I'm also unsure how long Asperger's has been a well-known diagnosis, so it may not have been recognized by whoever it was that "tested" Sheldon when he was a bullied nerd-child. Since there's been no talk about follow-up tests (and I'm sure Sheldon disdains psychology and all those who study it) I have no trouble believing that he has Asperger's or a similar disorder that older "tests" may have missed or been unaware of, and current tests might diagnose.

Facts are stubborn things.

MSA

Tuesday, February 7, 2012 5:16 PM

Riona- I'm just basing it on the interviews the actor has done stating the character is described as having Aspergers and the episode where Sheldon's mom mentions he has Aspergers but she thinks it should just be call Asshats... but in all fairness I would have said that anyway. A significant number of the students I work with have Aspergers. They've really enjoyed Sheldon because he shows a person with Aspergers having a social life, friends, and being funny. It makes them feel less freakish.

I did love Bernadette's discussion and I think it's nice someone put it out there that lots of women don't want to have or raise kids and that's ok.
I do think Howard would be kind of a cute stay at home dad with Raj for support...giggle
Mind you that would go a long way to supporting Leonard's mother's assertion that they have an ersatz homosexual marriage

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

RIONAEIRE

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:40 AM

Well "crazy" in the context of the show would include Sheldon, since they all call him crazy or a "whackadoodle", to which he responds he's not crazy his mom had him tested, I doubt she had him tested for psychosis since he doesn't have that at all. And the charactors give each other significant glances after he says it.

I don't think your students should aspire to be like Sheldon, he's a total ass and in real life if someone acts like that they wouldn't have any friends because no one wants to hang out with _that. You couldn't pay me to be friends with Sheldon, or anyone who behaves like that. He obviously has no empathy skills and doesn't feel love.

I do like when shows approach gender rolls differently, everyone is different and there are lots of women who aren't interested in having and raising children, and lots of men who would make amazing primary child rearers.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

LILI

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:33 AM

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Well "crazy" in the context of the show would include Sheldon, since they all call him crazy or a "whackadoodle", to which he responds he's not crazy his mom had him tested, I doubt she had him tested for psychosis since he doesn't have that at all.

But any official test which declared him "not crazy" would essentially be saying "not psychotic/borderline personality disorder/severe bipolar/anything that would make him non-functioning outside a mental ward." Sheldon being as literal as he is, I doubt he's talking about anything else. I've always seen part of the joke being that he doesn't get what is meant by "crazy" because he thinks only of strict definitions.
I didn't say his mom had him tested for psychosis, she probably had him tested to make sure he could function or if he would need someone looking after him at all times. Of course, he does need someone, since he panics when driving, but in most aspects of his life he does fine. He can cook without burning the place down, he can take care of himself, and he can hold a job so long as he has a way to get there. Someone classified as "crazy" would probably be challenged by such things. So no, Sheldon isn't crazy. He clearly has a disorder (or two) but he isn't crazy. A lot of people have some form of disorder they live with, without being classified as crazy, Sheldon's is just more prominent than most.

Facts are stubborn things.

ZEEK

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:01 PM

There is no classification for "crazy". People are diagnosed with disorders. No psychologist would classify someone as "crazy". They likely wouldn't even call someone "not crazy". It has no clinical definition.

MSA

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:06 PM

Sadly in a social sense most kids with Aspergers are " asses" The main function of their disability is a complete lack of social skills. Sheldon does fairly well with asking for clarification of what is acceptable and when corrected by Penny, Bernadette or Amy seems fairly responsive. I think the big problem with Sheldon is that the guys put up with him. He isn't nearly as selfish or rude with the girls because every time he is, they tell him to stop and tell him what to do.

I have to say, my favorite character is definitely Amy... she cracks me up!

Zeek- so what'd you think of HIMYM????

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

ZEEK

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:55 PM

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Zeek- so what'd you think of HIMYM????

Haven't seen it yet. I've been spending every night this week working on painting my new bedroom. Took almost all of monday night just prepping the room. Last night I did all the roller work until a little after 11pm. Poor Kaylee only gets to see me when I get back to my apartment to sleep. I'm hoping I can finish up tonight though. I want to get carpet cleaners out there on Friday if I can. Previous owners had a dog and there's tons of fur in the carpet. Then maybe I can move in over the weekend. That's probably a pipe dream though.

MSA

Wednesday, February 8, 2012 5:57 PM

Ah the joys of home ownership... so what color are you painting your bedroom.
You need to get Kaylee a cattery in the garage. My friend has an awesome one with a cat door from her laundry room into the garage. It's elevated and open ( with wire fronting obviously) and there's a litter box with a covered bottom with a grate. All she has to do is pull a lever and the litter just drops right into the garbage.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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