Imponderables- Jump right in , there's room for everyone!!!

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LILI

Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:14 PM

Well, statistically speaking, requiring "above average" anything to graduate would mean that about half the students could not graduate. While it can be a little appalling to encounter college students who literally don't know what basic punctuation is, I'm not sure what policies would fix the problem, because I remember going through grammar rules several times in elementary, middle, and high school.

Facts are stubborn things.

ZEEK

Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by MsA:
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So do you think that schools should require above average writing skills to graduate or just the bare minimum?

Not really. Sadly in this day and age it's not really as big of a deal as it used to be IMO. I have a friend who's a software engineer and a darn good one. She can't spell or punctuate worth a damn though. I really have to sound things out and squint a lot when I read anything she wrote. It really hasn't slowed down her career as far as I can tell.

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:36 PM

I like Lili's point, it wouldn't be above average if everyone has to do it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

GORRAMGROUPIE

Monday, January 30, 2012 4:07 PM

Favorite school assignment: one was where we wrote more at the end of The Cask of Amontillado. I did it from the viewpoint of Fortunato.

Winter activity: not slipping on ice and killing myself.

Love where we are, it's a smallish town with a major university, lots of diverse stores, a great arts community (even an opera company! not that I'm into opera that much), and only a short highway drive to a major city. The only drawback is a lack of larger, cheap housing, so much is split up for student rentals.

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
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MSA

Monday, January 30, 2012 5:52 PM

Ok I shouldn't have used above average..

How about more than adequate??
Here's what our state requires on the proficiency to pass high school. Each student must write 2 essays on 2 prompts. Each essay can only be a page long.Here is a sample of a passing essay with the prompt( spelling and other errors included
" Television has made Americans a nation of watchers rather than doers. Agree or Disagree"

Tv makes people lazy and fat. My mom and dad have got fatter because they sit around all day and watch tv and don't go out or do anything at all.
I think that Americans got lazier because of tv and that is just wrong. People should go outside and do things instead of just sitting inside and not doing anything.
Tv was invented a long time ago and before tv people were not fat like they are now. People used to go out and do things and get what they needed to done.
Nowadays everyone stays inside and does nothing except watch tv. It makes me sick to see how people have turned themselves into useless do nothings. They are like the wallrus on the beach except the wallrus has an excuse because it is an animal.
That is why I think that tv has made us watchers instead of doers. We don't DO anything or go anywhere or get anything done. We just sit around getting fatter like my mom and dad.

Would you say this is an acceptable essay to be considered proficient ?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, January 30, 2012 8:27 PM

I would say that essay shouldn't be adequate. When I was a young girl we were taught to write five paragraph essays, usually atwo pages long or so, maybe a tad shorter. The format can be expanded to be longer, an opening paragraph, three paragraphs in the middle, or maybe more, with a point in each paragraph with evidence to back it up and a concluding paragraph. this never steered me wrong.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

ZEEK

Monday, January 30, 2012 11:17 PM

I'm not as concerned with their writing as I am with their argument. They're basically saying that the only influence on people's weight is the amount of TV they watch. Really? Nothing else has changed in people's diets or any other factors in their lives that could effect weight? Please. Think a little deeper and find some facts to back up all those statements.

MSA

Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:35 PM

That was my issue with it as well. The mechanics aren't perfect, but I don't think that's essential. If writing is communicating, this is an epic fail. It's not well thought out, has few points, and doesn't make a compelling, logical, coherent statement.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

MSA

Wednesday, February 1, 2012 4:33 PM

Bump

New ponder- what's your favorite sitcom?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

RIONAEIRE

Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:15 PM

The Big Bang Theory, hands down. Its the only grown up sitcom I watch. The only other sitcoms I've liked in life have been the ones I grew up with and one that came on when I was 17, they all had kids in them. Big Bang is the only grown up one I've ever really enjoyed. It always makes me laugh hard and I can relate to it and I've never found adult sitcoms particularly relatable.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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