Was Mr. Universe supposed to be in Firefly?

POSTED BY: OPPYH
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OPPYH

Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:20 PM

A question we may never know the answer to, but what do you think?

Did Joss have him lined up as a recurring character had Firefly gone into a second season, or did he just whip him up for the film Serenity?

Mr. Universe is one of my favorite characters in Serenity, and its a pretty genius idea that Joss had for our BDH stay in touch with he rest of the verse.
Any insight, or a definitive answer would be appreciated.

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PHOENIXROSE

Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:23 PM

Since there were indications that they had dealings with him in the past would indicate that if the film's storyline had been put into a season, he probably would have appeared in that season at least a few times.

What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

STORYMARK

Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:53 PM

Not being a fan of the character myself, I may be biased, but Im thinking no. At least, not as we saw him. He felt a bit too much like a Deus Ex Machima device introduced to expedite the sotry. Perhaps there would have been an information broker character at some point, but I doubt he would have been quite so omnicient.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:53 PM

I liked him too. I thought he was a great character. I liked the fact that playing on one of his MANY screens was the Flash Gordon serials. We can only wonder at the myriad of characters that Joss & Co had lined up for us.
Was the idea that he lived on that planet/moon all by himself? If that's the case, his back story would have been very interesting.

(I found the lovebot element the hardest to deal with. I wonder too if there were to be Lovebots in the Firefly verse...?)

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OPPYH

Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
He felt a bit too much like a Deus Ex Machima device introduced to expedite the sotry. Perhaps there would have been an information broker character at some point, but I doubt he would have been quite so omnicient.

I see your point, but being the eyes, and ears of the verse he was sort of important in my opinion. He could have become an very well liked character given some time to flesh him out. Heck I liked him in the short time he was in the film. And so did the crew, they even buried him next to their own.

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PHOENIXROSE

Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Was the idea that he lived on that planet/moon all by himself? If that's the case, his back story would have been very interesting.

The novelization has a bit of information on that, as well as how he came to associate with the crew. I don't know how much of it came from early drafts of the script and how much came from the author's mind, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

STORYMARK

Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:44 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
He felt a bit too much like a Deus Ex Machima device introduced to expedite the sotry. Perhaps there would have been an information broker character at some point, but I doubt he would have been quite so omnicient.

I see your point, but being the eyes, and ears of the verse he was sort of important in my opinion. He could have become an very well liked character given some time to flesh him out. Heck I liked him in the short time he was in the film. And so did the crew, they even buried him next to their own.

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I could definietly see a character of that type working on the show, no doubt. It was just, as presented, he felt more like a device to keep the plot moving.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:53 PM

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:

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The novelization has a bit of information on that, as well as how he came to associate with the crew. I don't know how much of it came from early drafts of the script and how much came from the author's mind, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

Thanks Rose... Kind of like the idea of having a planet all to oneself...

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ZEEK

Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Not being a fan of the character myself, I may be biased, but Im thinking no. At least, not as we saw him. He felt a bit too much like a Deus Ex Machima device introduced to expedite the sotry. Perhaps there would have been an information broker character at some point, but I doubt he would have been quite so omnicient.

I agree. It really felt like the character was created just to serve a purpose.

Though I do like the character and think he fits into the verse pretty well. I could see him being a recurring character. I just doubt he was thought up before the movie.

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:31 PM

I'm never reading the novelization, I've heard it wouldn't be to my liking or my view of the verse.

I didn't really like Mr. Universe either, he just sort of appeared and was sort of flat, just there to accomplish the plot but without substance in his own right. If there had been a few episodes about him then he might have grown on me.

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