STAR WARS: the Old Republic...Anyone Playing?

POSTED BY: HKCavalier
UPDATED: Monday, April 23, 2012 01:53
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BYTEMITE

Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:04 PM

Yeah, I'm having to suck it up and just play my conversations as they are. I guess not everything can be a hilarious witticism.

At least I can pretend I'm more sarcastic than people give me credit for.

Oh, and also, I finally figured out why my story wasn't progressing. I had to hitchhike all the way back to Ord Mantell because the quest told me to go to the space port and board a shuttle to Coruscant, but didn't tell me I had to look for some people first. Blargh.

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:32 PM

Oh gee, I just love EA's disastrously broken installs... *hisssss*

Mind you, I've had the bloody game for three DAYS now and still can't get it to friggin WORK cause of technical difficulties related to EA's typical halfassery - I shoulda KNOWN better than to invest in this (which mind you, means delaying purchase of certain stuff I kinda maybe needed) after the fiasco of having to put two full days into installing Dragon Age: Origins - which required manually unpacking the files to a seperate directory and then by hand installing while correcting CRC errors up the ying-yang and then hacking at the game code in a very technical way to get their overaggressive and ridiculous DRM bullmalarkey to even *function* so the DLC works and forget about tech support, yeargh...

So now I am out damn near seventy bucks for a game that's so broken on install it's driving me up the bloody wall, and the worst of it ?
Having to download and redownload near 10 GIGS of patchfile crap... at 176 KB/s - only to have it fail, replete with (what a surprise!) CRC errors, and no way to crack the files open and manipulate them like I did to get DAOC to work, which even when it did, would crash randomly and then require me to hunt up and handpatch invididual game files *IF* I could figure out which one was bad.

Damn EA to the very depths of hell.
I shoulda known better the instant I realized they were involved with this, once they have your money, it's all a big F-U from them.

If I do not have this workin by tomorrow, imma see if my bank can't jam them up for my money back.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:07 PM

I know what you mean, Frem. I was one of the open beta group that was testing server load just two weeks prior to green light. I also had the Pre-Order, where they let people play one week early.

It was a debacle. EA and Origins didn't tell anyone that people were going to get the client in waves, relative to when they signed up for the pre-order, meaning not everyone got the full week, either.

That's without getting into Origins/EA Downloader itself and the draconian spyware stuff they have going. I'm mildly assuaged by knowing apparently ALL games with online capacity nowadays have external monitoring and a line in the TOS about releasing gathered information to third parties. I don't really like it, and that kind of thing is just asking for people to hack it, but it's not a dealbreaker for me yet.

The launcher can be buggy - make sure you run it with admin settings (right click launcher menu on most computers). That seems to have solved crash issues for a lot of people. The ten gig download is pretty steep, it was like that right from launch day, which is pretty bad.

Also, when you make your account, make sure you do ALL FIVE security questions. I had a problem where I filled in only three, and the other two security questions registered as a lot of gibberish. So when I logged in on both the website and the game, it asked a security question I never answered and I had to get EA customer service to unlock my account again.

I'm sorry you're not having fun yet. :(

BYTEMITE

Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:48 AM

Another option is a conflict with an old version of winrar or winzip.

Alternatively, here's a way to get the download files manually, by deleting your assets folder, which may have corrupt files in it already that are screwing with things.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=795&page=56

One more thing to check is if your settings aren't 32 bit. The game doesn't like that.
Apparently some new computers or installing to an external harddrive can cause the problem you're describing. You could try installing to an old computer, and then transfer the files over.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=795&page=66

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:56 PM

Gee and now they've wiped the forum to hide the ever growing cascade of bitching, no doubt winging the ban hammer at those revealing their wonder product is in fact, a piece of go-se.

NOT. WORTH. IT.

DELTREE SWTOR *.* /Y

*waves bye bye to seventy bucks*

*goes to immediately pirate about seven hundred bucks worth of BW/EA stuff in retaliation*

One shouldn't HAVE to go through all that crap to get something YOU PAID FOR to work.
And they'll suffer for this, they will, one way... or another.

-F

BYTEMITE

Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:06 PM

I'm sorry Frem. I guess we should have warned you. I didn't think to mention it because I got it working, but yeah, it took me about four days.

HKCAVALIER

Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:18 PM

Yikes! I'm sorry to hear that, Frem. Me, I had the game working in the usual couple hours of downloading. It's a new MMO, not without bugs. They've been patching it at least once a week, so maybe you could try again in a couple weeks or a month and it would work?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 20, 2012 1:31 AM

Well, it's not over yet, it seems...

Okay, now I've been an avid vid-gamer since the days of Channel F and Coleco Telstar, and for some period of time I was really tight with a lot of the crew at Interplay, some of whom have over the years moved on to Rockstar or BioWare, and made some new friends along the way, you see.
So I do kinda know some of the folk who actually do the grunt work of building these things, hell we had one of them in our FFXI party for years and occasionally me and our DRK would also play PGR2 Racing with him, damn his Koenigsegg CCX to the depths of hell, meh.

Anyhows, I was playing another game earlier this morning and verbally tearing a long and bloody strip off Bioware for ever getting involved with EA in the first place, compounded by a long list of games and companies EA has completely wrecked with their rent-seeking, borg-like viciousness and exploitation, sprinkled liberally with profanity and hatred for those who seek profit at the expense of what makes games great - one reason I have mostly gone back to retro-games which while less pretty, were actually FUN.

And one of those former Interplay refugees who landed in the BioWare camp is like "whoa, whoa, hold up, give us a chance here!" and I proceeded to deliver a verbal excoriation since I don't have the ABILITY to "give them a chance" since EA's fundamentally broken install prevents me from even TRYING to, and unless he could give me back my cash I wasn't really interested in hearing it...

And he offers to send me physical copy, next day air, with updated install and a printed cheatsheet on how to get it to work if it goes flaky.
OOOOooo-KAY, then.
One thing about them ex-Interplay folk, they're not corporate drones, they're GAMERS - remember what their motto was, and as such he wasn't gonna let something like that go if he could fix it, and that folks, is what made Interplay great in the first place.

And it's the LACK of it, which is why EA sucks wookie testicles.

Anyhows, we'll see, I guess, we'll see...

-Frem

BYTEMITE

Friday, January 20, 2012 3:42 AM

That's really nice of them.

You know, when I was a kid, I had a lot of respect for Blizzard, this was in the time of Warcraft 2 and Diablo. Diablo is still one of my favourites: yeah, it's simplistic compared to modern games, the code is easily hacked, multiplayer was a crazy fest of duplicating and pk, and yet somehow it was still good.

I'm sad to see sometimes how the business side of things has overtaken what was once Blizzard's integrity (though I still play WoW, credit card security issues aside).

Bioware is kind of the same way now, I have these mixed feelings of respect but also wariness. But this story just goes to remind me that there's still a kernel of people who care and have integrity in the industry.

I think you'll have fun once it's working. Bioware plus Star Wars is a proven formula, I've always appreciated how their games make you think because of the moral dilemma aspects. I actually credit KOTOR for changing the way I look at the world, I became less vindictive after playing that. For people who think video games are so bad for kids, they really ought to try playing through the light side.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 20, 2012 8:57 AM

You'd have loooooved this bit from an earlier SW RPG, I think...

Pretty obvious that imma Potentium-Theory Grey Jedi, who's actually viewed by most as a Sith and chooses not to disabuse them of that notion cause it's too much work and they'd prolly not believe him anyways, especially not with Jedi propagandizing.
Ergo they sent some creep to deliver their traditional ultimatum - and this is pretty much the response said creep got.

"I have no apprentice, wouldn't want one, and you know what, piss on the rule of two... if I wanted to slavishly follow someone elses damn rules I'd be sucking up to the council, now wouldn't I ?

And that's another thing, there IS no dark side, there IS no light side, the Force is the Force, it simply IS, like gravity or energy, it EXISTS - and any notion of a moral connotation comes not from the Force but from within ourselves, and it is this most of all which offends me, that the Jedi so terribly fear their own reflections that they would smash the mirror, attempt to amputate rather than embrace and guide WHO THEY ARE, give names to actions as if those names were a seperate thing, as if Good and Evil were absolutes instead of matters of perspective, and worse!
They would hold OTHERS to their own personal absolutes, projecting their own fallacies, their own weaknesses onto others and then seeking their destruction because they cannot face themselves?
Because understanding there ARE no absolutes offends them?!

And you call me a monster, do you?!
At least I know WHO I am, I know WHAT I am, and can face that knowledge without needing to blame someone else for MY flaws and failures, I am not blinded by some concocted myth of infallibility, by some... some... CRACKBRAINED, ludicrous notion of moral superiority!
Nor might I add, am I beset by any pressing need to inflict it unwanted, upon others, unwilling, by force of arms or manipulation - whether you live by my rules or not means naught to me, whether you believe what I believe means even less, and can you say that of the council, would you dare say that TO the council ?

A bunch of whimpering old fools who wish to amputate that which makes them sapient, to tear out and destroy their own grace because they fear the path it may some day take, that judge others pre-emptively on actions only in potential, that destroy emotion for fear of losing an impartiality that only even exists from their narrow and blinded perspective, if even then ?
Why not just replace them with droids... oh, wait, you can't because droids can't access the Force, right ?
How do you even know that is true ?
Because they TELL you so, THEM ?
No, you know NOTHING!
Go from here, mercenary, and tell the council that the universe does not exist to serve their prejudices, and I'll not serve them either."

Of course yon merc didn't take that too well and wound up chopped into little sizzling pieces for their trouble, so Darth Pandus shipped the remains back with a tape of that rant - woulda loved to have seen their faces when they watched it.

Anyhows, I figure that verbal rampage, near as I can remember it, would amuse you given it's unique perspective on the Jedi.

-Frem
PS. I sincerely hope there's even SOME complexity to the moral scale or whatever they use in SWTOR, since most games involving a karma meter are flat out downright stupid about it, which I know prolly irritates you as much as it does me.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KarmaMeter

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