Removable Penis

POSTED BY: whozit
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 04:43
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AURAPTOR

Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:22 PM

That looks like an old video. Hadn't caught that one before. Huh.

Yeah, 'somehow' that never made it into my music rotation.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

KWICKO

Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:50 AM

'Bout 20 years old.

BYTEMITE

Monday, January 16, 2012 3:25 AM

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She did not NEED to wear to it work

Hmm. She didn't NEED to. But does that mean she shouldn't at all?

Because this is two different arguments, whether she should have brought it up in conversation, or whether she should have worn it at all.

And I have to say an argument about that she shouldn't have worn it to work is going a little far. A guy wears a jockstrap to work. Is that all right? What if he wears a g-string under his trousers, makes him feel pretty? Apparently that's all right. What if a lady don't wear a bra, but she's otherwise covered up, is that all right?

Actually wearing it is no more offensive than a guy bringing himself to work, it's not like he doesn't have that down his pants as well. The problem comes in if they start talking about it, drawing attention to it.

Now, if a guy started talking about his bits, maybe that would be fireable, so the question is, does it count the same way if it's a fake one and she's talking about it? Maybe. Maybe not. It's murky territory.

1KIKI

Monday, January 16, 2012 3:43 AM

AFAIK people who are in line for gender reassignment are required to start their life as their new sex before the actual surgery - with hormones, prostheses, clothes and grooming, activities (going to the men's or ladies room depending on their prospective sex) etc. This takes place months before surgery. It's possible in this story it's the necessary part of medical treatment.

And it appears that the people who were directly told had no problem with the information, perhaps they were friends, or the interested curious, perhaps they even asked.

It was the other people who were told by the original audience who were 'offended'. And? If they didn't want to now, they didn't have to gossip. Even if they did know, it was no particular business of theirs or the company to act upon. Nothing illegal or immoral happened.

All I can say is, this country sure seems like it's full of closed-minded dicks.

WISHIMAY

Monday, January 16, 2012 4:45 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:

And I have to say an argument about that she shouldn't have worn it to work is going a little far. A guy wears a jockstrap to work. Is that all right? What if he wears a g-string under his trousers, makes him feel pretty? Apparently that's all right. What if a lady don't wear a bra, but she's otherwise covered up, is that all right?

Now, if a guy started talking about his bits, maybe that would be fireable, so the question is, does it count the same way if it's a fake one and she's talking about it? Maybe. Maybe not. It's murky territory.

I've worked a couple jobs that came with handbooks detailing what undergarments MUST be worn while at work as well as rules about jewelry, makeup, ect. They never mentioned how they could enforce the undergarment thing, but the rules were there.

I think that legally it is a the very least a simulated penis which is usually used for what?? urination, and reproduction. If she was somehow using it to pee, she could have a case, but otherwise it IS a simulated sexual device. I would think a guy wearing fake breasts would be subject to the same rules. Work is for work, not blabbing about yer jubbly bits. Firing may or may not have been an extreme reaction, depending on workplace rules. They probably should've suspended her for day to get the message to cool it clear, but...

There was a case in the UK(?)recently where a gal had a severe sexual addiction and went to the bathroom several times a day to "relieve tensions" and she won a discrimination suit, soo.... who knows...
I wish her luck. She's gonna need it....

1KIKI

Monday, January 16, 2012 5:15 AM

"... a male co-worker who wore female clothing and prostheses and took hormone treatments was not fired nor disciplined."

And here is where the problem is.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, January 16, 2012 5:48 AM

What she wears to work under her clothes is her business. I don't know why she was telling everyone about it, its her business.

Gender reassignment surgery is so dallusional in my opinion, I view thinking you're in the wrong body as a dallusion like any other, thinking you've been abducted by aliens, thinking you'll be a "whole person" if someone chops off your legs, etc. Just sayin. REady for the slings and arrows of discontent.

But I don't think she should be fired because, again, its her business. I should think awarning about keeping private things private should be sufficient, a fake penis isn't going to impact how she does her job so it shouldn't be an issue for work.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

BYTEMITE

Monday, January 16, 2012 5:52 AM

Sounds to me like your work places were horrible drone facilities where you couldn't go take a leak without asking permission. I've been fortunate to have never been in a place that the most requirement they have is that you wear stuff that you wouldn't be arrested in the street for wearing.

That said, arguments about some sort of dress code or work uniform don't fly with me. Since when does someone else own your free will or your sense of taste? Paycheck or not, they can bite me, and I'd both refuse to work in such a place or support them monetarily.

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I would think a guy wearing fake breasts would be subject to the same rules.

There was, and he wasn't. Also? It's not a sex device unless it is BEING USED for sex. You hear anything in that story that she was masturbating herself? No? That she was sticking it in anyone else? No?

she had every right to wear the thing, the question gets into whether she could talk about it, but as I think about it, THAT starts getting into near nonsense stff like "Don't Ask Don't Tell."

So I think this whole thing is nonsense, and she really does have a case.

BYTEMITE

Monday, January 16, 2012 5:56 AM

Riona, I've often figured I'd be better off as a man. Just because I haven't ever gotten surgery doesn't mean my mind isn't masculine. That's not really something I can control, nor is it some way I'm deluding myself, as most everyone else who knows me says I'm masculine too. It's just how I am, we're talking quite a bit past mere tomboy.

Call me gender confused, I don't care, but I reject this society's short sighted norms and gender roles. I'm not female, I'm not male, and it doesn't really matter which I am because I'm also asexual. So it's irrelevant.

However, I agree with your other assessment, because it is her business. I think that's very forward thinking of you.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, January 16, 2012 7:59 AM

Byte, I think of you as a female who isn't notably girly. I think there's a difference between wondering about being something else, thinking about it, secretly feeling like that sometimes, and actually going and cutting off your parts and implanting fako ones and putting unnecessary hormones into your body.

Now, the time when a gender reassignment does make sense to me if if someone is intersexed, a lil' of both anatomically and so wants to pick one.

I think privacy is good and one's business should be one's own. But her fako penis should have nothing to do with work so no one needs to bother about it. I guess she was sort of asking for it by broadcasting her business, but still a repremand should suffice.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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