Zazzle removing Serenity products??

POSTED BY: Tiger
UPDATED: Saturday, September 18, 2004 17:53
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WILLOWY

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:24 PM

I got my retro poster shirt from zazzle yesterday. You all wanted to know about the quality, and I think it's pretty damn shiny. It's a bit thicker than my Buffy shirt from cafe press, and they did a fantastically accurate job on tiger's artwork.

So if any of you were having qualms about ordering from zazzle, go ahead. And if anyone wants a picture of the shiny shirt (with me in it though, sorry! :P) just email me at unidesign@msn.com.

"Once, in flight school, I was laconic..."

GWYNETHH

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:41 PM

Same here. Mine came yesterday. Nice product with great art. Sorry they got pulled.

Well some of us have some nice collectors items

Are You Asking me to Dance?

GOJIRO

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:47 PM

I've ordered a few, but they haven't shown up yet. Every time I try to check my order status, their site just freezes. Annoying!

Rhymepile, I'm glad you were able to get an order in. So far, my stuff is still there, but who knows for how much longer ...

Regardless, I thank you for your support! It means a lot that someone actually wants to wear my work on their body!

If you need me, I'll be on Cloud 9!

gojiro

gojiro

ELLYDRAGON

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:12 PM

There's another issue that I haven't seen mentioned so far on the thread, and that's maintenance of trademark. One of the reasons that Paramount and Disney (in particular) are so well known for smacking down anybody who does anything with their images (particularly Mickey and Star Trek items) is that they have to prevent their characters from becoming public domain. These companies -will- come and force you to yank images off your site, even if they're of your own creation, and they can do it. So, while they can't stop you from creative expression of making your own images, legally they are able to prevent you from distributing them in any manner without legal permission from their copyright departments.

Does it suck? Yes, especially for those of us who are buying these things to try and promote their movie and DVDs to others. However, I'd rather have them yank the stuff now, than have somebody come along later and make some porno Firefly ripoff (as something off the top of my head) that gives the show a bad name later on when they can't defend it because they've allowed the images to be used so freely before.

STILLSHINY

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:27 PM

So are these shirts completely unaccessible now?

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

TIGER

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:20 PM

Gojiro's stuff is gone. Did he get stung or did he remove them himself? I notice his account is still active...

STILLSHINY

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:29 PM

Saw that, man that sucks.

saw these at CafePress

http://www.cafepress.com/scifi4scifi_bcd

They are called BrownCoat Definition.

Nothing as cool as Tiger or Gojiro's stuff. But obviously not using any "photos, logo's or posted artwork".

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

RHYMEPHILE

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:31 PM

No, the Cafe Press T's are definitely not as cool as Tiger's or Gojiro's.

So does this mean the T-shirt I ordered from Gojiro's Zazzle shop this morning is the last in the short-lived line? I just got a shipping confirmation...now I hope the shirt actually arrives.
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All of me is beautiful and valuable, even the ugly, stupid, and disgusting parts.

LEXIBLOCK

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:56 PM

Well, i think Copyright is evil and abused. It should be 5 years for the creator, and non transferable - then it went into the public domain.

Despite the word usage "intellectual property" is not REAL property and shouldn't be treated as such.

GOJIRO

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:29 PM

Huh.

Well, I just logged onto Zazzle, and my account IS still active, and my images ARE all gone. No explanation, no email. I expected they'd catch up to me eventually, so I'm not bummed or anything. Well, a little, since it means my chances of seeing someone wearing something I created (or Joss and I, if you want to get all legally about it) are now seriously diminished.

But I figure selling it was probably not a Good Thing to begin with. As someone pointed out, I guess it could open the door to making FF and Serenity public domain, and I certainly wouldn't want that (although I guarantee there will be a "Serenity" porn parody if the movie is successful at all).

For the record, I wasn't selling the shirts and posters to make money. Since Zazzle only pays 10% of the sale (i.e. $1.50 per shirt), it just ain't worth it. I was just doing it to get some attention-getting promo out there for Serenity. Guerilla marketing, some call it.

Oh well. I'll be putting some higher resolution JPEGs on my .mac site (homepage.mac.com/gojiro42), and if anyone wants to download them and put them on iron-ons for themselves, feel free.

Thanks kindly for all the positive things said about my images!

gojiro

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