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Will John Carter be the new LOTR/SW/POTC? (plus Mission Impossible discussion)

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, March 5, 2012 00:52
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Monday, January 2, 2012 3:37 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Having only seen the woman they did cast in Wolverine... Im not sure she can...


Well it's near a sure thing she can act better than Ms Fox- it's just question if it's better enough acting to be really good...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 2, 2012 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Van Helsing had a similar structure and by about half way through I was fed up of it all.

That was one long & hard to take cartoon. I should have just watched Woody Woodpecker instead.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:23 AM

Uploaded by WaltDisneyStudiosAU on Feb 23, 2012. John Carter opens on March 9th.



The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:56 AM

I am SO there.


The Mal-like Chrisisall

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:34 PM

To be honest, I'm not all that sure what to make of any of this.

I had to do some back ground checking, because I had not heard of John Carter before.

For the time of its conception, it was pretty far out stuff. However, a 100 years later, I'm not sure how'll the story will translate. I'm guessing some artistic liberties w/ the original story will be implemented for the big screen.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:06 PM

I predict John Carter will be the biggest bomb in recent history. You don't spend $250 million on a film without having a huge star attached, nor do you alienate the target audience by disavowing all connection to the source material. Heads will roll at Disney for this.


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Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I predict John Carter will be the biggest bomb in recent history. You don't spend $250 million on a film without having a huge star attached, nor do you alienate the target audience by disavowing all connection to the source material. Heads will roll at Disney for this.



Your post got me wondering if there was any definition/formula for "Bomb" - not exactly, here's wiki's attempt:

The phrase box office bomb (also referred to as a flop) refers to a film for which the overall cost (production, marketing and distribution) greatly [?] exceeds the revenue regained by the movie studio. This should not be confused with Hollywood accounting when official figures show large losses, yet the movie is a financial success [??]. Since the term only refers to studio returns on investment, it should not be confused with a negative critical reception, or even with being unpopular or a poor performer compared with other films. After all, a film with an excessive budget can "bomb" in terms of studio profits, but still outperform the vast majority of other theatrical releases during that year.

Studios pushed into financial ruin from movies that bombed:
In extreme cases, a single film's poor performance can push a studio into bankruptcy or equivalent financial ruin, as happened with RKO (The Conqueror), United Artists (Heaven's Gate), Carolco Pictures (Cutthroat Island, listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the biggest box office flop of all time), Fox Animation Studios (Titan A.E.), The Ladd Company (Twice Upon a Time and The Right Stuff), Fleischer Studios (Mr. Bug Goes to Town), and ITC Entertainment (Raise the Titanic). The Golden Compass was seen as a significant factor in influencing Warner Bros.' decision to take direct control of New Line Cinema.
When a failed attempt to revive a genre is particularly costly, all studios baulk at producing similar films, as was the case with Gold Circle Films' horror-comedy Slither, which made less than a quarter of its $29.5 million budget.

[?] When someone defines "greatly" we'll have abetter idea.

By this definition I think your prediction will be correct.

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:34 PM


Seriously, am I just so far out of the loop on this, or is John Carter really an obscure figure in sci-fi history ?

20,000 leagues under the Sea, War of the Worlds, The Lost World,... not unfamiliar w/ any of those

John Carter ? Not a freaking clue.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:34 PM

Read all the ERB books of John Carter’s adventures when in my teens. The movie looks to be exciting. Hoping it can expand beyond the regular Box/office of sci/fi folk. There’d be hope for a sequel then.

ZBP

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Seriously, am I just so far out of the loop on this, or is John Carter really an obscure figure in sci-fi history ?

20,000 leagues under the Sea, War of the Worlds, The Lost World,... not unfamiliar w/ any of those

John Carter ? Not a freaking clue.




The John Carter of Mars books are what Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote before Tarzan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Rice_Burroughs

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