Music for Serenity

POSTED BY: VeraJayne
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 05:15
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OZYMANDIAS

Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:12 PM

John Williams is good, but overrated. The imperial march, awesome. Indy Jones, awesome. But not everything he's done is great. Some of it really sucked. I think Basil Poledouris beat the mortal shit out of him as far as composing goes. Check out the Red Dawn or Starship Troopers Soundtracks.

Chance? nonsense, I prefer INEVITABILITY
-O. W. Grant

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by JimNightshade:
Anyone who thinks John Williams writes "cheesey shit" obviously doesn't understand music, and music theory, Ask any composer who is the best. They will all give you the same name. John Williams. When you say He writes shit, it shows your ignorance toward your knowledge of music. Pitty...

My problem with John Williams is the number of times I catch a classical piece on the radio, not knowing what it is (which isn't a rare occurence at all, honest) and think they are playing Star Wars or some such - to discover that Williams has been "inspired" by an existing piece. The most obvious one I heard recently was a Phantom Menace piece.

That's not to say I think that's true of all his music. He made Jaws what it was, he was instrumental in Indy, CEOT3 and the original trilogy, superman et al.

All composers seem to eventually start repeating themselves, the better ones (like Williams) just take a little longer - cf Hans Zimmer in recent times.

Currently listening to the princess + the warrior, a german soundtrack of a franka potente film by pale 3 which is great, but has the guitar sound from all over the mission impossible 2 soundtrack - the copyright years are exactly the same. Am I the only cynical one that notes that Hans Zimmer has recently taken to "co-working" with Klaus Badelt, and that Pirates of the Carribean was allegedly the work of over 10 composers?

Apologies for letting my reply send this thread off into a soundtrack rant...

"I threw up on your bed"

MOJOMAN360

Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:08 PM

I'm hoping they have the same composer; the music in Firefly was as good, if not better, than John Williams Star Wars work.

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by Mojoman360:
I'm hoping they have the same composer; the music in Firefly was as good, if not better, than John Williams Star Wars work.

Not sure you'll get many to agree - good as some of the stuff in Firefly was, Star Wars, the original trilogy will, and should, be held up as one of the best soundtracks ever produced - one of the few that you link the music and film together in an instant.

"I threw up on your bed"

NEDWARD

Monday, August 23, 2004 3:44 PM

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
All composers seem to eventually start repeating themselves, the better ones (like Williams) just take a little longer - cf Hans Zimmer in recent times.

Currently listening to the princess + the warrior, a german soundtrack of a franka potente film by pale 3 which is great, but has the guitar sound from all over the mission impossible 2 soundtrack - the copyright years are exactly the same. Am I the only cynical one that notes that Hans Zimmer has recently taken to "co-working" with Klaus Badelt, and that Pirates of the Carribean was allegedly the work of over 10 composers?

No, you're not alone. Shame Badelt couldn't develop in his own right - he might have been more than a Zimmerclone, though I haven't heard evidence of it.

Does anyone know the circumstances behind Pirates? Was it a Badelt/Zimmer production because Zimmer was doing fifty other things at the same time? (cf. Williams on the 2nd Harry Potter film.) Was it Badelt's baby that Zimmer tinkered with? Or was it Zimmer saying, "Here, boy, try splashing out on your own"? I wonder.

GWENHARKER

Monday, August 23, 2004 7:12 PM

Pirates was done by a group of 50 composers headed by Klaus Badelt. I felt that the music was appropriate for the movie and I enjoyed it. Hans Zimmer oversaw everything.

All I know is that I'm glad Greg is overseeing the music production. It wouldn't be firefly without him :: goes off in search of the ending peice to 'The Message' ::

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, August 23, 2004 9:44 PM

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Originally posted by GwenHarker:
Pirates was done by a group of 50 composers headed by Klaus Badelt. I felt that the music was appropriate for the movie and I enjoyed it. Hans Zimmer oversaw everything.

I think its a product of the ever decreasing gap between the film being completed and delivered to cinema. LOTR was a welcome exception to this, and allowed Shore to create a fantastic soundtrack, something of the equivalent of Gattaca, one of my favourite soundtracks.

"I threw up on your bed"

SSJ4BLACKBELT

Monday, August 23, 2004 10:03 PM

You know, if Greg Edmondson could not do Serenity's score, I say Howard Shore should do it!! I think that'd be pretty cool, if you ask me...

MOHRSTOUTBEARD

Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:15 AM

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They need to put King Crimson on the soundtrack

I love King Crimson, but "not sure I see the percentage in that"; that is to say, I don't really know if they'd fit.

"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

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