Will we ever see an ALIEN in Firefly...?
POSTED BY: Sardonica
UPDATED: Thursday, August 26, 2004 20:28
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Personally, I hope not. One of the things that's made Firefly so refreshingly different is that, in many respects, its not actually science fiction. By that I mean that Firefly doesn't center its stories around imagined scientific discoveries. Even when technology does play a part, its nothing that isn't directly analagous to problems that we all deal with already(I'm thinkin of OOG here).
I've noticed this particularly running a Firefly RPG(tabletop variety). Its so easy to fall back on standard sci-fi plots (crew discovers new technology/race/phenomenon and then must deal with the resulting challenges), but whenever I do, it just doesn't seem like Firefly anymore. Firefly stories need to center around the timeless, human characters that struggle with problems all too similar to our own.
When the focus moves away from the characters and their lives and addresses the more typical sci-fi premises and hypotheticals, it loses the very thing that's made Firefly so special.
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please, no aliens.
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Nope. Joss says nope:
"Human beings are a lot scarier than any monsters or aliens you can dream up."
And he's very definite about not cross-versing.
I say DARN. I think it could be great. For one thing, Mal is just about the only male character in the Jossverse man enough for Buffy. I've posted this elsewhere too, but wouldn't they just be perfect?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it happened way down the line, if there were a series, but I don't think it's likely wtih the current state of affairs. I really wouldn't mind seeing some kind of out-of-continuity story where the crew makes the first alien contact, but I don't think it should be part of the series.
But, to attempt to steer this thread completely off course (and because my mind wandered there when I saw the title).
Let's say it's the episode Bushwacked, or a situation like it. Abandoned derelict, one survivor. Except, the crew's just been back from an exploration mission at the edge of the known 'verse, and has made the first contact with an alien race. Yay. Unfortunately, it's the race from the Alien movies. And the survivor's infected with a chestburster. They take him on Serenity, not knowing what's going on...
What happens next? ;)
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StarPilotGrainger wrote:
Sunday, August 22, 2004 13:03
Let's say it's the episode Bushwacked, or a situation like it. Abandoned derelict, one survivor. Except, the crew's just been back from an exploration mission at the edge of the known 'verse, and has made the first contact with an alien race. Yay. Unfortunately, it's the race from the Alien movies. And the survivor's infected with a chestburster. They take him on Serenity, not knowing what's going on...
What happens next? ;)
YES!
That would be perfect!
My 2 most favourite Sci-Fi shows, Firefly and Aliens.
I'd never even entertained the idea of interlinking Sci-Fi like this but now... WOW! That would be awesome...
The whole Alliance thing would have to be revisited though as they would be the least of the crews worries with those Aliens about.
I love Firefly the way it is but I still believe there is merit in the idea of bringing aliens onboard(so to speak).
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Maybe we already have... there's all this talk of Inara's secret, eh? Maybe that syringe she had in the pilot was really some sort of alien nutrition supplement that she needs to maintain her health and/or humanesque physique.
More to the point, I think we should ask ourselves:
Will there ever be vampires or demons in firefly? there's already been an Angel stunt double.
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Naw, nothing more supernatural than ESP was Joss's pronouncement.
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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
Plants, molds, fungae, horses, fish, etc. are by themselves Earth organisms. Parallel evolution could not have created them on other worlds. Even if alien life actually does exist, it would most likely be unlike anything we have ever seen or even imagined.
You took the words out of my mouth, CrevanReaver. I agree with Sardonica that the rare Earths idea does not put the nail in the coffin of extraterrestrial life that some people assume it does. But I also agree with CreevanReaver, that it would be very weird for any of the colony worlds to have evolved life that looks identical to Earth life.
This is another example of what Joss has gotten right and Star Trek hasn't. Nearly every world the Enterprise crew visited seemed to have independently evolved habitats strangely similar to southern California (when the worlds weren't entirely papier-mache). With terraforming, it makes sense that many of the worlds will look quite similar. They have to pass through the same stages in the same process and will most likely start with the same introduced "seed" species.
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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
No. I don't think we'll ever see alien life in firefly. In the intelligent, person style way anyway. I think it would destroy the whole point of the show, the idea that it's now just with more technology.
I don't even think we've seen alien plants (or alien in the sense they were already there). I think the different diseases and plants we've seen are the results of existing organisms adapting to the new environments of the terraformed worlds.
Exactly what I think. Firefly is (among other things, of course) about the ways the human race evolved. An alien just won't fit in FFverse. I think one of the things Joss is trying to tell us is: "Hey guys, look - no aliens, no unknown races, and still many types of personalities." The human race is complicated enough. We don't need aliens to be mean or funny or weird, there are people like that.
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Aliens? God I hope not!
Aliens are fine and dandy in Star Trek, Stargate (SG1 & Atlantis), but I don't want them in Firefly. To me, Firefly is about humanity and our trek through the stars, trying to find a new home, and our BDHs trying to stay beyond the reach of the Alliance. Aliens would just gum up the storyline.
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