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The last American soldier to die in Iraq

POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2011 22:06
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Monday, December 19, 2011 1:10 AM

His name was David Hickman, U.S. Army Specialist of the 2nd Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division.

Specialist Hickman was killed in Iraq on November 14, 2011 in Baghdad by a roadside bomb that ripped through his armored truck. According to the Pentagon, he was the 4,474th member of the U.S. military to die in the Iraq War.



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Monday, December 19, 2011 1:30 AM

I knew this would happen to someone. Sucks to be the one. When they said "touring for wind down operations" I thought "god, how much would it suck to be the guy killed in wind down?"

Any sign of the end of Afghanistan, aside from them repeatedly asking us to leave?


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, December 19, 2011 1:45 AM


I'm sure, after the first Gulf war, there was a 'last to die ' too.

Hope this time, it's for real.





"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Monday, December 19, 2011 3:16 AM

Well, the GOP says we should have soldiers dying in Iraq for "the foreseeable future", so there's always that...

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Monday, December 19, 2011 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
His name was David Hickman, U.S. Army Specialist of the 2nd Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division.


This may offend some folk, but... see that underlined part ?

ZERO sympathy here, as this was the unit that participated in the complete violation of posse comitatus and the second amendment of the united states during katrina - in defiance and violation of their oath of service, the laws and customs of this county, and the purpose of their own existence.

Yeah, sure, I bet there were some courageous, upstanding members of the fucking wermacht who "just followed orders" too - they don't get a free pass for it, and neither does the eighty-second mother fucking airborne, because they did even WORSE than the dirty third, they not only put on and zipped up the jackboot of tyranny, they kicked americans in the face with it.

And that is unforgiveable - far as *I* am concerned the 82nd airborne is as much terrorists as any jihadist and should be regarded as such until such time as they should choose to redeem themselves.

So what's one more dead terrorist to me ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, December 19, 2011 7:13 AM

Your pissiness is irrelevent here Frem, unless that guy was one of the dudes who messed up Katrina I don't want to hear it mkay? Go cool your heels.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, December 19, 2011 12:09 PM


Course not, nobody wants to hear that these "heroic" stormtroopers will just as "heroically" disarm us and march us into the camps if ordered to do so, without question.

So long as the american people remain on their list of potential suppression missions, they're not friendlys, and I will not support them.

You wanna snap at me for it, fine - but tyranny doesn't WORK without the triggermen willing to take the tyrants orders, who are (See Also: Nuremburg Trials) every bit as guilty, especially when those orders are in direct violation of their oath of service.

And the unwillingness to call them on it, that happened before, and look what came of it.
If doing so makes you angry at me, that is a small price to pay.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, December 19, 2011 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
ZERO sympathy here,

That's your prerogative of course.

But I feel sympathy for dead terrorists.

I didn't feel sympathy for Mobutu or Pol Pot. Granted. But their order-carrying-out foot soldiers--I don't put them in the same league. I'm not mourning them, mind you.

But no more dancing over graves. Not accusing you of dancing. Just a metaphor to remind myself we are all human.

(Except for maybe Mobutu and Pol Pot.)

ETA: Just read this. Speaks to me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ashley-judd/post_1312_b_786835.html

Quote:

My friend Victor Chan recounts in his book with the His Holiness the Dali Lama an exchange between HH DL and a fellow Lama, who had been tortured by the Chinese.

"Were you ever afraid?" HH DL asks his brother.

"No," replies the man.

"Really? You never felt fear?" presses the great spiritual leader.

Pause.

"Yes. I was afraid I would lose compassion for Chinese," is his surprising concession.




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Monday, December 19, 2011 9:20 PM

I understand what you mean Frem, crap wouldn't happen if people weren't willing to take the orders. But I'm a very time-and-place person, it didn't feel like the right time or place for that sentiment so that's why I said so. This feels like a thread for reflecting, being thankful its over for the Iraq war and thinking how it would feel to be his family and know he was the last one. That's what this thread feels like to me. That's why I wasn't happy. But that was yesterday.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, December 19, 2011 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Course not, nobody wants to hear that these "heroic" stormtroopers will just as "heroically" disarm us and march us into the camps if ordered to do so, without question.



Same thing could apply to private security outfits. Say Pinkerton or Blackwater or Whackenhut. Obviously private security is all bastards and we'd be better off with them ended.

What was it you do for a living, again?

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