The Rise and Fall of Western Civilisation
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But how the heck you gonna get people to get it?
Oh I don't expect them to, well not much anyways - you don't expect someone hamstrung on purpose as an infant to walk, do you ?
But perhaps by understanding its importance even in a distant way people can be taught it's not a flaw, not a weakness to be crushed out, but something to be cherished and nurtured in future generations.
Tis the hope of it, anyways.
Right now though, no one wants to face up to the sheer brokenness of things, getting past the denial is gonna take a while, but again, inevitable as day following dawn - my real concern is the true sociopaths in charge of things getting the chance to blow it all to hell on us before we manage to wrest it from their hands.
S'funny too - you're one of a very few people that really understands, comprehends, that despite me being a rough sort, violent in thought and action, even in my language often enough, that the primary drive inspiring that conduct is in fact compassion, that my intention is to crush the obstables to humanity finally achieving their potential.
But this was always coming, one way or another a system based on sociopathy is always doomed, human nature (which as I am fond of pointing out, and you know all too well is NOT the lie we've been told) itself defeats it just by EXISTING - and Nature always wins, eventually the mechanism to stifle peoples humanity starts to break down and fail, because it's RUN BY HUMANS, and even the worst of them have their small kindnesses, even in subconscious ways, that break the facade and expose the lie of it to those who've not managed to yet blind themselves.
Patience and Faith, old friend, patience and faith.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Ai ya. Do we really want a one world culture?
(I know, that was intentionally hypocritical. :) )
In any case, I'm not sure. Is empathy really about liking ourselves too?
Although I agree it's important. In some ways current generations are more tolerant of other races, creeds, and orientations. But in regards to empathy, current generations don't really connect with people around them, or try to help people, or get involved in their community.
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It's odd. Folk love to talk about how much every damn thing sucks, and how everything's goin' to hell, etc. Even folk who you'd think would be clapping their hands, "Good riddance!" And then somebody suggests that all this sucking may be for the best and maybe underneath all the suckatude there's some lovely truth to hold on to and things to look forward to because of it and no one pays any attention.
Definite agreement here. The only thing that concerns me is the potential suffering during the good riddance.
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Quote:You don't have to sell me on the power of our collective, or even individual, potential.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
CTS?
None of us, is as strong as ALL of us - I and those like me stop it... no.
ENOUGH of us, humanity in general, though, oh hell yes.
Our combined might and will can in fact accomplish... ANYTHING.
What I tend to doubt is getting ENOUGH of us together.
Yeah, I believe it's too late to save Western civilization. Consider that ship jumped as far as I am concerned. But I have great hopes for the fledgling, baby civs. I have hope that my kids could live in a better place, if only we can get "enough of us" together that would support innate and universal dignity.
For me, dignity is the social currency in any civ worth its salt. Not equality or empathy, though they are all good. Dignity.
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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth. -- Lucy Parsons (1853-1942, labor activist and anarcho-communist)
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Quote:Diffusion of responsibility. We need smaller communities.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
But in regards to empathy, current generations don't really connect with people around them, or try to help people, or get involved in their community.
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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth. -- Lucy Parsons (1853-1942, labor activist and anarcho-communist)
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Empathy is crucial, and easier to find in people who are focusing on their local area in my opinion. One world culture would totally suck brick. I can't agree with Cavellier in regards to happy fuzzy one world culture land, ain't happenin.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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The End of Civilization as We Know It
https://wallstreetrebel.com/wsr/articles/the_end_of_civilization_as_we
_know_it/2022-05-06-14-44-48.html
Douglas Murray's book reveals Western civilization's greatest enemy — itself
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/douglas-murray-war-on-the-west-book
'Collapse of Russia will result in fall of the West'
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/oped/collapse-of-russia-will-result-in-fal
l-of-the-west/
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not truly over yet
I would argue Greece and Rome came before 'Magna Carta' while England today is islamo 1984
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One way to reset the planet would be motehr nature, a big Rock from Space or a Super Volcano going Boom
Deadliest volcano in Western Hemisphere shows signs of increased activity
https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/nevado-del-ruiz-volcano-eru
ption-colombia
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Beyond the Reset like one of those Pirate News David Dees style photoshop animations
https://rumble.com/v2f8xmc-beyond-the-reset-animated-short-film.html
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Did you know? Seine flooding in Paris - what was the worst? Back in pictures
https://www.sortiraparis.com/en/what-to-visit-in-paris/history-heritag
e/articles/309299-did-you-know-seine-flooding-in-paris-what-was-the-worst-back-in-pictures
BRICS to develop blockchain-based payment system to bypass the Dollar
https://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/brics-to-develop-blockchain-based-pa
yment-system-to-bypass-the-dollar-202403071521
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