Psych bible turns sorrow into sickness
POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 21:46
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Hey Sigma, it's been a while. Welcome back.
Yeah, I only use wikipedia when I want some reasonably tested information about some specific aspect of a disorder/illness or medicines used like the receptors and binding sites and pathways and such. Wikipedia is not all that convenient for diagnosis unless you already have an idea what you're looking at and are looking for the specific type or cause.
The assessment of psychiatry/psychology compared to medicine and both compared to science is about how I see it. All sciences have their basic models , but some sciences have more scientific rigour than others.
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Quote:Well, there is naturopathy and there is naturopathy.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Huh. Wikipedia told me that homeopathy was a subcategory of naturopathy. She done me wrong, that wikipedia.
Broadly speaking, naturopathy is any treatment model that relies on using the "vital force" of the body to heal itself with "natural" products. But in alternative medicine circles, naturopathy has a narrower definition. It means the use of vitamins, supplements, and herbs to support the body's natural healing, whereas homeopathy means the use of diluted homeopathic remedies to support the body's natural healing. Many people and practitioners use both.
But there are always loyalists who use mostly one and eschew the other. Both groups usually avoid medicine unless absolutely necessary.
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Quote:She can be if her grief lasts more than 2 months and is characterized by "marked functional impairment."
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
So, given the above, the grieving widow cannot be diagnosed with major depressive disorder because her grief has an obvious cause. Similarly, with the child.
Meaning, clinicians make a distinction between "normal" grief and "clinical" grief. So if you are still depressed after 2 months of grieving, they CAN diagnose you.
So bereavement gives you an extra 6 week "grace period" over a non-grieving person. Isn't that considerate of them?
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/mjrdepep.htm
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E. The symptoms are not better accounted for by Bereavement, i.e., after the loss of a loved one, the symptoms persist for longer than 2 months or are characterized by marked functional impairment, morbid preoccupation with worthlessness, suicidal ideation, psychotic symptoms, or psychomotor retardation.
Quote:I would say, if you don't eventually end up reading the original papers referenced at pubmed, you're either not done, or doing it wrong.
SigmaNunki: If you don't eventually end up at pubmed, you're either not done, or doing it wrong.
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Have to say, if my wife of more than 22 years were to die, I'm fair certain I'd be grieving and depressed for more than a couple months.
In fact, I'm not sure I'd ever get over her.
I'd keep on living, I'm sure, but I can't see that there would be much joy in it.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Basically, if you don't want to get screwed, do your research. But, don't use wikipedia as a primary source. Use it as a starting point. If you don't eventually end up at pubmed, you're either not done, or doing it wrong.
Thank you, Sigma, for a my black-humor laugh of the day, that's sooo bizarrely true it's just unreal.
Although I often wind up buried in even more esoteric medical journals and review work cause once I get my teeth into something I chew on it pretty damn hard - especially when the official medical diagnosis is "Why don't know why, and have no clue how, and can only barely treat the symptoms so we gave up..."
THAT pissed me off, it did.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Kwicko,
Completely understandable.
DSM authors obviously all have bad marriages and/or are eager to overdiagnose. Which brings us back to the point of this thread.
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