Trolls and troll bashing
POSTED BY: Tieka
UPDATED: Friday, May 14, 2010 17:53
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I'm really, really hoping this trolling blows over soon, but until it does, I thought I'd make a few suggestions to fans.
1). Don't reply to them. Trolls feed off of the attention. "Hey look, they read my post. Boy I got them. I'll do it again just to make sure!"
2). Don't insult, slam, mock, or retaliate. They will be encourage by this action and will have to reply (insult you further, continue tirade, or whatever trolls do). They will come back again. (and again, and again....)
3). Notify the webmaster if you see a troll post, or any post that is offensive to you or that you think is inapproiate. I would advise people to email Haken (haken@fireflyfans.net) or even notify@fireflyfans.net
4). Relax Trolls go away eventually, so there is no need to get really worked up over them. Just continue reading and posting, but most importantly enjoy the show. Firefly is going to be great. 
Tieka,
Glad that usenet taught me something useful
/:>Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.
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I think there is a sure-fire way to eliminate trolling. Here is my plan...
1.) We need a strong group of moderators to watch the forums and field questions from posters. These people will serve to set an example for the other postere, in turn preserving an area of constructive conversation and debate.
2.) A list of rules should be made. These rules should include the *very basics* of forum etiquette. They should be very basic and non-confrontational, allowing for disagreement, but not for hostility.
3.) The posters should not take trollish comments to heart. They do not deserve our attention. Firefly fans will have to deal with the backlash of scorned Dark Angel fans, and we must set an example of maturity in our fandom, as opposed to the irrationality of aforementioned scorned and hostile fans. We must stay open-minded as well. How would we react if we get very attached to Firefly and it was cancelled? Certainly, we would be hurt and we must recognize these other fans' pain.
4.) In order to preserve the proposed rules, violators of potential rules should be punished by first being warned and given the opprotunity to edit their post, and if that does not happen, having their post deleted or their thread locked. This action should only be taken if the rule is clearly viloated, as not to infringe on the posters' opinions and freedoms.
5.) Moderators and posters must encourage constructive debate and conversation. This is what will ultimately make or break this forum. It is what will make our community stand out amongst all of the other communities bound to rise.
6.) Trolls should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law 
How does this plan sound? Is it safe to say everyone is in agreement?
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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Agreed. The worst thing you can do is feed a troll. Of course, having fun at the troll's expense is something else entirely, but that's mostly a USENET thing. 
If the board is moderated and they can't act like idiots, too bad.
It's disappointing how many people get online and lack basic netiquette. There should be a course you have to take when you first get online that teaches you how to act in a proper manner. Of course if this happened then there'd only be a few thousand people online.
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Originally posted by Ringwraith:
If the board is moderated and they can't act like idiots, too bad.
Well, just because a board is moderated doesn't mean trolls will not be idiots. If they don't break any rules, then posts cannot be edited, and hillarity can still ensue.
It's disappointing how many people get online and lack basic netiquette. There should be a course you have to take when you first get online that teaches you how to act in a proper manner. Of course if this happened then there'd only be a few thousand people online.
Seriously... I wonder if these people are as confrontational in their everyday lives... or maybe it would be better not to know...
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Originally posted by NoVaGrAsS:
Seriously... I wonder if these people are as confrontational in their everyday lives... or maybe it would be better not to know...
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
Hopefully they don't work at any post offices.
SERENITY NOW!
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Originally posted by Ringwraith:
Hopefully they don't work at any post offices.
SERENITY NOW!
hahaha!
oh, man... what a thought... Newman as one of these trolls!
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I really hope they go away. I do think more moderation might be in order. Basically, a post is breaking the rules if it's inflammatory. It's not censorship if you delete a post that is clearly not designed for any purpose other than outright bashing something or provoking other posters. Most of the Dark Angel threads (save for the few intelligent ones - thank you to those DA fans) would qualify.
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I'm not thrilled about trolls, but these may not be true trolls. I don't even watch Dark Angel, & I find myself being sympathetic. The DA fans have their hands tied--Fox really put them in a bad situation. So I think DA people are posting nasty things out of desperation. It's wrong, but I think I can understand where it comes from.
Tammy
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Originally posted by tlsmith1963:
I'm not thrilled about trolls, but these may not be true trolls. I don't even watch Dark Angel, & I find myself being sympathetic. The DA fans have their hands tied--Fox really put them in a bad situation. So I think DA people are posting nasty things out of desperation. It's wrong, but I think I can understand where it comes from.
Tammy
and that's true of most social situations- when something bad happens, most people tend to seek someone to blame, and in this case, Firefly was the unfortunate show that was given DA's supposed timeslot. By the way, I hope the timeslot doesn't kill Firefly, because that was partly(and partly the storyline for s2) why DA wasn't given a second chance, the ratings were very poor on that night apparently.
as for trolls, the only problems you'll have will be the disgruntled DA fans, and mostly Cher, or ChertheFireflySlayer as she now calls herself. Seriously, ignore her, don't feed her, she'll get bored and go away eventually. I'm sure she has better things to do with her time.
Blaise
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Originally posted by Blaise:
and that's true of most social situations- when something bad happens, most people tend to seek someone to blame, and in this case, Firefly was the unfortunate show that was given DA's supposed timeslot. By the way, I hope the timeslot doesn't kill Firefly, because that was partly(and partly the storyline for s2) why DA wasn't given a second chance, the ratings were very poor on that night apparently.
I'd say that Firefly should have no problem in this position. X-Files did very well on Fridays, so I have no doubt Firefly will have *some* success. Sliders succeeded for three years (albeit, somewhat shakily) on the Fridays at 8:00 position as well.
The reason DA didn't have very good ratings, I'd presume, is because it wasn't all that *good.* It didn't draw that cult-audience it needed, because it was a very mediocre show, so the ratings slowly faded away.
I'm thinking now, that Fridays might be a really good place for the show. FOX doesn't expect astronomical ratings for that night, so FF will be ruled less by them than say... a Thursday position. I believe that the good-ness of the show will draw a *big* fanbase... and we'll see it succeed.
At least, I hope this will be the case.
About the trolls: I fully think that anyone who hasn't see a show and irrationally floods our boards with inane insults and profanity is by fault a troll. I don't think it matters their circumstances because I do feel sympathy for them... but they are still creating a hostile environment that I presume we all would like to avoid.
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