Airbus vs Boeing
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UPDATED: Monday, November 28, 2011 06:26
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
I am surprised to learn that we are able to declare foreign subsidies illegal.
"WE" aren't.
The World Trade Organization is an international body. As they say about themselves:
"There are a number of ways of looking at the World Trade Organization. It is an organization for trade opening. It is a forum for governments to negotiate trade agreements. It is a place for them to settle trade disputes. It operates a system of trade rules. Essentially, the WTO is a place where member governments try to sort out the trade problems they face with each other."
http://www.wto.org/index.htm
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Hello,
If 'they' (including us, so we) can declare foreign subsidies illegal, then this World Trade Organization seems to have more power than the U.N.
I wonder what injustices they are fighting in the trading community, other than 'subsidies.' I wonder what laws they've imposed to prevent true horrors of international trading, and what consequences they have levied.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I wonder what injustices they are fighting in the trading community, other than 'subsidies.' I wonder what laws they've imposed to prevent true horrors of international trading, and what consequences they have levied.
--Anthony
You could go to their website and find out.
http://www.wto.org/index.htm
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Hello,
What a disturbing website. Here is one of the issues that the WTO is concerned with:
"On 1 December 2008, Canada requested consultations with the United States concerning certain mandatory country of origin labelling (COOL) provisions in the Agricultural Marketing Act of 1946 as amended by the 2008 Farm Bill and as implemented through an Interim Final Rule of 28 July 2008. These include the obligation to inform consumers at the retail level of the country of origin in respect of covered commodities, including beef and pork. The eligibility for a designation of a covered commodity as exclusively having a US origin can only be derived from an animal that was exclusively born, raised and slaughtered in the United States. This would exclude such a designation in respect of beef or pork derived from livestock that is exported to the United States for feed or immediate slaughter. "
In brief: Should the United States be allowed to label meat according to its country of origin, or should such information be concealed? It appears that foreign nations prefer that such information be concealed.
The more I read about the WTO and the issues it handles, the more it fails to charm me.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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You think that's bad, have a look at the IMF.
-F
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Down with free trade, up with no more outsourcing and bringing back terriffs, even though my Irish butter will be way more expensive, its better than all our jobs going to China et al, I'll pay the extra.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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What I was meaning Klinko was that we think unions are lazy but they seem to still get the job done. Boeing does not have their eye on the ball. We lose aerospace we are not coming back. The posts argue capitalist vs labor. That is not the point. It doesn't matter. America has to stay strong. To do this we need skilled labor and producing. It's not happening.
Just at the Dubai airshow very impressive was the JF-17 from Pakistan. We are stagnating and not creative anymore in America.
Some of my posts are not coming through for what ever.
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Hello,
The most impressive innovation of the JF-17 is its low cost of production. It makes me wonder what we are doing wrong here in the states, when our comparable jets costs twice as much to produce. I wonder if they are able to feature such a price-tag by exploiting their workers, or if there is some other element afoot.
But perhaps this is yet another tangent deserving of its own thread.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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RionEire, I will be in Dublin next week. So I will stimualte your economy for about 3 weeks. Yes I am flying the Shamrock. Needed vacation being away from home so long. Then head back to Vegas. Looking forward to some Jameson Whiskey, Guiness, local butter, and corn beef. Bye the way I find Jameson whiskey is a very good deal around the universe. Not to mention I feel the best whiskey on the planet. In Vegas I got a 5th for 16 bucks compared to the 26 dollar market price. In Bishkek my Russian bartender (mafia) hooked me up with some. Not sold there. Johnny Walker is the what officially on the market. My first time in Dublin looking forward to a good time. Of course I am comming in on an Airbus. But what can you do.
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Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
The most impressive innovation of the JF-17 is its low cost of production. It makes me wonder what we are doing wrong here in the states, when our comparable jets costs twice as much to produce. I wonder if they are able to feature such a price-tag by exploiting their workers, or if there is some other element afoot.
I suspect that labor costs are somewhat lower in China and Pakistan than in the U.S. and E.U. I also suspect that there's a lot less quality control and safety testing than on U.S. and european warplanes. Wonder about operational readiness figures vs. similar Western aircraft.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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