Occupy crackdown
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More domestic terrorism, from the OWS gang...
White House shooting suspect charged with attempted assassination against President Obama
WASHINGTON — An Idaho man accused of firing an assault rifle at the White House was charged today with attempting to assassinate President Barack Obama or his staff, and prosecutors say he called Obama "the devil" and said he needed to be killed.
Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, of Idaho Falls, made his first court appearance before a federal magistrate in Pittsburgh today, one day after he was arrested at a western Pennsylvania hotel.
According to a court document released after the hearing, authorities recovered nine spent shell casings from Ortega's car, which was abandoned near the White House. A person who knows him subsequently told investigators that he had become increasingly agitated with the federal government and was convinced it was conspiring against him, the document said. Others told investigators that Ortega had said Obama was "the anti-Christ" and the "devil." Ortega also reportedly said he "needed to kill" the president.
If convicted, Ortega faces up to life in prison.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Quote:Funny AU, when this is all over, your life will be either the same, or better for it. You will win either way. Still you gripe, sorry, revolution is never a pretty, clean thing, and brings into it those that would be extreme in their views and methods. Which does not negate the validity of the broader movement, nor the need for change.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Do we have to wait until after a " man caused disaster " before anything is done?
Quote:Strange that you quote that- it is you who is being described in the latter part.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
The laughing Chrisisall
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AU calling protesters terrorism is terrifying me.
This is what the country has come to. All left-wingers are terrorists to the right-wing and all right-wingers are terrorists to the left wing?
And what happens when people with those same views get into power and enforce those labels?
Chilling.
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Chrissy - If you're aiming to misbehave, don't you think there ought to be a reason ? Other than Johnny has more toys than I do, so I'm gonna smash everything, even my own stuff, because life isn't "fair" ?
Problem w/ this 'revolution' crowd, or what ever you're trying to say, is that they don't even have a bandwagon on which to jump up on.
Yeah, the banks were loaned a lot of OUR money. And guess what ? They paid it back... with interest. Yet the students whining about their loans... they want that debt cleared, and not have to pay a dime back ?
Where's the logic in that ?
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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" More domestic terrorism, from the OWS gang..."
" he had become increasingly agitated with the federal government and was convinced it was conspiring against him"
Hello,
This is another case where your views are amorphous and ever-changing. They become whatever is necessary in order for you to speak out or act against the hated 'other.'
In one thread, you explain how the downfall of the economy is part of a plot by Obama to overwhelm the system and destroy America.
In another thread, at the same time, you explain that a man who took up arms against the government must be an OWS terrorist.
(??? If we believe your first statement, then the actions of this man would be the work of a patriot, no? The same rhetoric you spewed seems to be coming from his own mouth.)
Meanwhile, you label the OWS group 'homegrown terrorists' while...
In another thread, you advocate torture against terrorists.
So we can see that your rhetoric changes shape and color as needed, but your focus remains on destroying and harming the Other.
This is why you can claim apoplectic rage at the BP oil spill and botched cleanup, but simultaneously advocate a video that says we all need to say "Thank You" to BP for their benevolent efforts on our behalf. Your focus is: Obama Bad, Liberals Bad. Any argument or line of thought that achieves this end is Good, even when you must lay out a series of directly contradictory arguments and positions in order to do so. Consistency begins and ends with each individual statement, and does not need to pass from one statement to the next. None of your thoughts need to be logical. They simply need to point at a common adversary.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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And there you go again. Cherry picking from different threads, different discussion, taking out of context what I'm saying in one conversation ,and trying to weave it into a totally different one.
It's clear to me that, when I speak of something, say 'homegrown terrorist', ...
The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-o
f-radicals-on-right/
This memo, all the while the T.E.A. party rallies were going on, gives the clear impression that 'violent' acts may result from these uppity , angry white folk, on the Right. As it turns out, there was nothing to fear at all, from the law abiding citizens. The REAL problems, seems to be coming from the Left, and the OWS gang.
There is no 'rhetoric' , on my part. My message is clear, and constant. That you can't or won't see this, is part amusing, but mostly sad. Either you're intentionally attempting to distort my views, you truly are brainwashed, or just not that bright.
The video wasn't saying we should be thankful for BP giving us the oil spill, you wanker. It's a response to those on the Left ( and the WH resident ) , for constantly vilifying BIG OIL, as if they're always in the wrong, always evil, and have given us nothing, only taken.
I think you should re-watch the video. Ya might learn something.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Quote:
The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
This memo, all the while the T.E.A. party rallies were going on, gives the clear impression that 'violent' acts may result from these uppity , angry white folk, on the Right. As it turns out, there was nothing to fear at all, from the law abiding citizens. The REAL problems, seems to be coming from the Left, and the OWS gang.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Calling Tea Partiers terrorists is as ridiculous as calling OWS terrorists.
It's also freezing my blood a little. I need my blood to push oxygen around my veins. :(
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Hello Mr. Raptor,
Let me try to focus your gaze.
Your claims about Obama's master plan to destroy America closely resemble the claimed "OWS Terrorist" statements.
Are you a Leftist? Is he a Righty?
Are you in the OWS movement?
If his belief system is more in line with yours than the OWS, how is he an "OWS Terrorist?"
Or is the OWS belief system in line with yours?
Your message intent is clear to me, though your statements are hardly consistent in any aspect but one.
"Raptor will make any statement against his enemies, even a sequence of contradictory statements in multiple threads at the same time."
Not only are you incapable of consistency, you accuse others of wrongdoing when your inconsistencies are pointed out to you.
As though it is THEIR fault that you can't navigate a single line of reasoning or train of thought.
And of course you resort to insults when logic fails. Logic inevitably fails you, because the only thing logically consistent with your varied statements is the object you wish to destroy.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
AU calling protesters terrorism is terrifying me.
This is what the country has come to. All left-wingers are terrorists to the right-wing and all right-wingers are terrorists to the left wing?
And what happens when people with those same views get into power and enforce those labels?
Chilling.
I agree that it's wrong for both sides to do it, but you can't blame AURaptor for poking fun when the shoe is on the other foot. For example, it would be funnier than hell if the media started asking Democrats now if they think the attempt on the Presidents life was the result of hateful rhetoric by them and their OWS buddies. It wont happen of course, but you can’t blame people for laughing if it does.
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A - I posted the link to an article which clearly explains the basis of why some think Obama is trying to destroy our economy. Despite his claims to " focus like a laser beam " on solving the crisis, he's gone a long way to get legislation passed which is designed to crash the system.
Is he so naive, he doesn't see this, or is it exactly what he's trying to do ?
As for Mr Ortega-Hernandez, who shot at the White House, it seems you're ignoring the fact ( or not getting it from the MSM ) that prior to the shooting, he spent his time in and around the Occupy crowd.
He looks like an Occupy type, too. Not a hard stretch to connect the dots.
But to be fair, taking pot shot at the WH does seem a 'crazy first' sort of thing. So, while we can list the ever growing # of violent acts committed around and by the Occupy types, you're willing to let this one go, huh?
Got it.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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