Airbus vs Boeing
POSTED BY: CatPirate
UPDATED: Monday, November 28, 2011 06:26
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"Regime"
Gotta love the Raptard's obsessions, delusions and rank idiocy.
Following laws is bad, if you hate the guy in the White House. Which is apparently a regime, despite, well, the rest oif the goddmaned government.
Pure comedy from Rappy.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Well except for the fact that Boeing could easily continue to manufacture planes in the new plant in the event of a labor strike in the old plant. In fact the company admitted that was part of their reasoning for building where they did. That is illegal as it interferes with the rights and power of workers to organize.
And why shouldn't they admit it ? It's their company. There's nothing illegal about it in the least. It's a smart business move, is what it is. Let those idiots strike, and shut down one part of the company. Doesn't mean the rest of the folks have to suffer too.
You really are having a tough time grasping this concept of freedom, aren't you ?
This crap the NLRB is pulling is unprecedented in how the govt is treating business.
This is your regime, focusing like a laser beam, on the economy ?
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by AURaptor:And why shouldn't they admit it ? It's their company. There's nothing illegal about it in the least. It's a smart business move, is what it is. Let those idiots strike, and shut down one part of the company. Doesn't mean the rest of the folks have to suffer too.
You really are having a tough time grasping this concept of freedom, aren't you ?
This crap the NLRB is pulling is unprecedented in how the govt is treating business.
This is your regime, focusing like a laser beam, on the economy ?
The National Labor Relations Act says what Boeing is tryign to do is illegal. The National Laboe Relations Act is law. Do you grasp that?
Allowing further errosion of workers rights is not going help anything. We have labor laws for a damn good reason.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The National Labor Relations Act says what Boeing is tryign to do is illegal. The National Laboe Relations Act is law. Do you grasp that?
Allowing further errosion of workers rights is not going help anything. We have labor laws for a damn good reason.
You're such an easy mark.
And no, the NLRB isn't " the law ". This case is being reviewed in a court - OF LAW.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by AURaptor:And no, the NLRB isn't " the law ". This case is being reviewed in a court - OF LAW
Never said it was, so that is a nice strawman. I said the National Labor Relations Act. The National Labor Relation Board is a government agency who is tasked with investigating and remedying unfair labor practices. So no the NLRB is not the law, but it is a reglatory agency that has certain powers.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Correct. And the discussion was the actions of the NLR 'BOARD', not the ACT, so the strawman you introduced was quite unnecessary.
It's the actions of the NLRB which are being called into question, as they appear to be motivated purely by politics, and not matters of the law.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Correct. And the discussion was the actions of the NLR 'BOARD', not the ACT, so the strawman you introduced was quite unnecessary.
It's the actions of the NLRB which are being called into question, as they appear to be motivated purely by politics, and not matters of the law.
It is a matter of law because their actions are based on that act. The NLRB finds that what Boeing is doing violates the law.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
It is a matter of law because their actions are based on that act. The NLRB finds that what Boeing is doing violates the law.
My, you ARE a good little useful idiot, aren't you?
Good grief. Do you even have any damn CLUE about this case? Or are you just parroting back what you hear on MSNBC ?
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NLRB documents shed light on Boeing fight in South Carolina
BY JAMES ROSEN
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS
WASHINGTON — Lawyers for the federal labor agency fighting Boeing’s new factory in North Charleston, N.C., repeatedly joked among themselves about the dispute and exchanged a political cartoon portraying S.C. Sen. Glenn McConnell as a crass-speaking confederate soldier, according to internal documents released Wednesday.
The emails, memos and other documents from the National Labor Relations Board, which the agency provided in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, also portray Sen. Lindsey Graham’s behind-the-scenes efforts to prevent it from filing a complaint against Boeing.
And two internal emails on April 21 and April 22 refer to Sen. Jim DeMint as “Senator Dement” and “Sen. Dement,” with the normally capitalized “M” in his name typed as a small “m” in an apparent bid to tie it more directly to the word “demented.”
In an April 8 conversation, Graham warned NLRB acting general counsel Lafe Solomon against incurring DeMint’s wrath if he took action against Boeing over alleged union-busting at its Everett, Wash., commercial jet plants.
“He said that the charge would scare Boeing’s customers and could affect orders,” Solomon wrote in a note for his files after talking with Graham. “He said that the political fallout would be huge and that he was more reasonable than his Senate counterpart (DeMint).”
Graham used tougher words in a follow-up conversation three days later.
“He said that if a complaint was filed, it will be ‘nasty, very, very nasty,’” Solomon wrote in an April 11 file note. “He said that this was a case of how not to grow the economy. … He said that if (a) complaint issued, he was going ‘full guns-ablazing.’”
Solomon ignored Graham’s warnings and filed a complaint with the NLRB on April 20. It alleges that Boeing expanded production of its Dreamliner aircraft to South Carolina, a right-to-work state, in retaliation for past strikes by Machinists union members at its Puget Sound factories.
Boeing says it built the plant next to Charleston International Airport because the state government gave the aerospace giant $900 million in tax incentives and it couldn’t afford to production delays that future work stoppages might cause.
An NLRB administrative law judge in Seattle is considering the case following oral arguments by the two sides in June. It could end up in the federal courts and take years to resolve.
Graham, a Republican, said Wednesday that Solomon had described their conversations accurately, including his warning about DeMint. “Both senators were outraged,” Graham spokesman Kevin Bishop said.
DeMint took no offense at Graham’s characterization of him.
“He’s right,” DeMint said. “I tend to be less forgiving of these things.”
DeMint aimed his ire at the NLRB.
“These documents support what we all suspected,” the Republican said. “This is a politically driven attack on workers in right-to-work states by ideologues on the board to tilt the scales of justice in the union bosses’ favor.”
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/10/2495853/nlrb-documents-shed-ligh
t-on-boeing.html#ixzz1e6lA6VDg
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Good grief. Do you even have any damn CLUE about this case? Or are you just parroting back what you hear on MSNBC ?
Yes I do, but apparently you don't. You don't care about the facts of the case, just that someone involved with it made fun of a member of the GOP.
Try again!
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Good grief. Do you even have any damn CLUE about this case? Or are you just parroting back what you hear on MSNBC ?
Yes I do, but apparently you don't. You don't care about the facts of the case, just that someone involved with it made fun of a member of the GOP.
Try again!
You've shown no real grasp of what is going on, other than to parrot talking points of the administration.
No point it trying again, you've shown you lack the intellect to participate.
Shoe fits, wear it.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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