Why Obama Should Take Out Iran's Nuclear Program
POSTED BY: canttakesky
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Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:Well, the first suspects I'd look at would be those with motive.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, who do you think is behind these killings ? Sure it's not some domestic Iranian acts ?
Motive for what ? Keep Iran from furthering its nuclear program, or some other purpose.
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I'm cool with sanctions, but no warring unless they say they're gonna blow someone out of the water or they go for it, then we'll have to make war with them. But I hope it doesn't come to that anytime soon.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/israel-mossad-iran-blast?C
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A series of news reports linking Israel's intelligence agency the Mossad to a blast at a military facility in Iran, in which 17 people were killed and a further 15 wounded, has gained widespread coverage in the Israeli media on Monday.
While Iranian officials insist the explosion at the Bid Ganeh base was accidental, caused by the movement of ammunition, claims from anonymous western and Israeli officials that Saturday's blast was a covert Israeli operation have gained momentum.
Leading Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot picked up a post by US blogger Richard Silverstein claiming the Mossad had teamed up with Iranian militant group Mujahideen e-Khalq (MEK) to execute the alleged attack. MEK denies involvement in the attack.
Leftwing broadsheet Ha'aretz also led with reports that a western intelligence source quoted in Time magazine had claimed the Mossad carried out the attack in an attempt to stall Iran's development of a nuclear weapon. The official is said to have warned: "There are more bullets in the magazine."
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Iran will of course deny it, because to admit that their security apparatus could be so easily infiltrated BY JEWS would cause a major loss of face for those in charge in Iran.
But they'll let the rumors fester, rather than provide any evidence which counters the Israel story, just to stoke the fear among the populace of Iran, and to gain sympathy and favor with the larger Arab and Muslim world.
Israel, meanwhile, is highly unlikely to confirm or deny such an act. For one, they don't admit to such things officially, pretty much ever. For another, admitting they were behind it would be a pretty clear admission that they violated another nation's sovereignty, and wouldn't really stand them in good stead with the UN or the world community, and would increase pressure on the U.S. to cut aid to Israel.
Plus, they like the fear factor that such rumors will stir up in the Iranian government.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Mossad undertook such an operation. I'd be surprised if they admitted it, or if the Iranians did. They like to use the Jews as their whipping boy, their bogeyman, but they can't openly admit that there are Jews piercing their military installations at will, can they?
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Quote:Motive for the crime, silly. Motive for murdering scientists in cold blood.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Motive for what ?
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Quote:I think we can all reasonably assume the Mossad is the most likely suspect.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Mossad undertook such an operation.
My question is, is it terrorism, to go around murdering scientists and bombing facilities?
If we suspected Afghan nationals to have murdered OUR nuclear scientists and bombed our nuclear facilities, we wouldn't hesitate to scream "Terrorism!"
Does it cease to be terrorism if the perps are Jewish instead of Muslim?
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Hello,
There is little long-term benefit in killing scientists and performing minor sabotage. The subject will rehire and rebuild eventually. The dance will go on.
However, if a program needs to be delayed so that a larger operation can take place, then such tactics make sense.
--Anthony
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Why would Israel do something that will be self sabataging? If people find out they're doing that then less countries will support them.
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Hello,
Israel is a country that believes they ultimately stand alone. While they will gladly accept assistance and charity from other nations, they do not feel that they can completely rely on their allies. A long history of persecution has given them this feeling that they can only count on themselves. They would even try to sink a U.S. Navy vessel if they believed it was in their interests.
My opinion, based on my interpretation of historical events.
--Anthony
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Interesting theory Anthony. What about how little they are population/geographically, does that dampen their resolve to stand alone ever?
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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