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Why Obama Should Take Out Iran's Nuclear Program

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:35 PM

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krepinevich-jr-and-evan-braden-montgomer/why-obama-should-take-out-irans-nuclear-program


The Neverending War Machine is at it again.

So...did we say there were WMD's in Iraq? No... you heard wrong. We meant Iran!

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:44 PM

Hello,

I am at a loss as to why it should deeply concern us that Iran has nuclear capabilities. I hate being in the pre-crime business, and I wish we'd get out of it. If they misuse their technology, then is the time to act. Not one moment before. If we pull our hair out and go crazy over this, we'll actually make the situation worse, in my opinion.

--Anthony


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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:59 PM

I do think Iran's intention is clear, and I do think they are a threat. How much of a threat they really are to the US of A is a real good question. I think not so much, YET.

And I think Kwick is right- they're not enough of a threat against the US for us to act pre-emptively.
Israel maybe-- the Jews are presumably the first target, and within reach, and vulnerable.

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:04 PM

Hello,

Well, the Israelis will have to make their own choices. But if they make a pre-emptive strike, I wouldn't support them either. They'd be on their own.

Now, if they were attacked, they are allies, and we would consequently be forced into war. The difference is, if Iran launched nuclear war, the majority of the world would be marching to war beside us.

--Anthony


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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:28 PM

I don't think we should first strike Iran but we should support Israel if they do. My main worry is that the Mullahs and Akmadinagad turn out to be as crazy as they seem, and that they think they can anonymously blow up a major US city and get away with it. Obama cutting and running from Iran has really emboldened the Iranians, now that they think Obama is their bitch they might just test him further. It looks like this is the war Obama needs to win reelection with 10% unemployment.

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:52 PM


I recall many saying that Israel would go do the job themselves, if Obama were elected President. The feeling was that Obama would be soft on the middle east, ( as evidence to his apology tour, and nixing the missile deal w/ Poland, etc.. )

3 years later, and Israel hasn't done much but offer up 1000 prisoners to get back 1 soldier from Palestine. Not exactly the 'hard line' against her enemies that one might expect, huh?

I think military action would be inadvisable.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:11 PM

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Now, if they were attacked, they are allies, and we would consequently be forced into war. The difference is, if Iran launched nuclear war, the majority of the world would be marching to war beside us.
I dunno, Anthony. Iran attacks, as an ally we have to back them up; as Iran's allies, Russia, China, etc. back THEM up...and away we go, WW III on a platter. That's my worry. We're spread kind of thin, our guys are pooped from multiple deployments, some might think we were ripe for the picking. And given the WESTERN world's economic situation, could they chime in very well? Too complex for me, just worrisome.


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Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:50 PM

Hello,

I do not think any of Iran's allies will support them if they nuke Israel.

Just as I think most of Israel's allies would not support them if they nuked Iran.

If nuclear weapons are so taboo that we don't want anyone to develop them, what do you think will happen when someone actually uses them?

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If nuclear weapons are so taboo that we don't want anyone to develop them, what do you think will happen when someone actually uses them?

The last time someone actually used them, that country became a superpower.

I am not sure that all hell won't break loose once it starts. It might end up like War Games (yes, I'm that old). Not saying it *will* 100% happen. Just that I think it is may be more likely than you think.

We have a lot of stupid people in charge.

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Friday, November 11, 2011 12:51 AM

Back in high school I was totally okay with preemptive actions, I thought it meant we were keeping bigger disasters from happening. I'm not in high school anymore. I think I've learnt my lesson and so I feel we shouldn't do anything beyond maybe investigating further and if everyone else agrees or if we want to on our own we could sanction, but no war, I'm done with that.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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