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Herman Cain: The Buffoon Strikes Again

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:45 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you.
Makes a great bumper sticker.



Try this one.

ETA: Better this way, I think.





"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



I DO like that smile. And there's a kind of look in the eyes...

But I do think the other one makes a better bumper sticker.




Oh, the other one definitely makes the better bumper sticker. And the way it's worded, I've no doubt that some of the tea-baggers would actually proudly put it on their cars, completely oblivious to the joke!


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:53 AM

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And let's just think about the irony: Cain has "no memory" of lawsuits and accusations and untoward behavior and settlements or any of that...But as soon as the accusing woman's name becomes public, he's all ready to go with a document containing her whole personal financial and legal history. Hmm.




I also note that Cain's campaign claims that this latest accuser has had cases filed against her claiming medical fraud, and they act like that alone is "proof". What they miss is that, by their own standard of "proof" - or their implication that since she's had allegations made against her, there MUST be something there - Cain is confirming what all his accusers have said. Hey, there's a settlement, so that settles it, right? There were complaints filed, so he MUST be a serial harasser, right?

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BTW, he disclosed all this sexual harassment "stuff" in private conversations with his handlers-of-the-moment in 2003. Just in case it might come up. But in 2011 he has no idea. So that's what he's trying to sell us. (And sadly, that's what some demented little people are buying, because they need something chewy to go along with their kool-aid.)

My eyes are rolling right out of my head right now.

Wait, I might be confused again - is this story about Perry or Cain? Or Santorum? Gingrich? Bachman? Sarah P? Or--my god--is W. back? They're all so uniformly nuts that I can't tell which is which...

On the up side, I kind'a like Buddy. He's done good things, not the least of which was on Colbert last night. Brilliant.

Someday I may have to live in a world with no Stewart and no Colbert. That will be a very sad day. Unlike a day with no Cain/Bachman/Palin/Santorum/Perry/Romney... I'll survive that one, but only because there will all be those juicy internet video clips to remind me of the GOTP fun.


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Meanwhile Cain, who says he doesn't really believe there's racism anymore, has made references to "lynching", claimed that it's because he's black, blamed "brainwashed" blacks and "the Democrat plantation", and is now crying about some secretive vast left-wing conspiracy being carried out by "The Machine". And of course he says he has no evidence or proof of any of this.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:54 AM

I was all with the funny on the first bumper sticker until I read the post about Clinton's cigar. OK - ewww! Not what I want to imagine smelling!



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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:19 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Yepper, that's it , Kwik. Thank you.
Makes a great bumper sticker.



Try this one.

ETA: Better this way, I think.





"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



I DO like that smile. And there's a kind of look in the eyes...

But I do think the other one makes a better bumper sticker.




Oh, the other one definitely makes the better bumper sticker. And the way it's worded, I've no doubt that some of the tea-baggers would actually proudly put it on their cars, completely oblivious to the joke!


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



'Xackly! You could paste it on your car and drive to an Orange County Tea-Bagger convention, infiltrate and subvert, and they'd never figure you anything but a loyal member.
But if you drove thru a liberal neighborhood on the way, they'd get it.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 2:59 PM

May have been said already but....

The more Cain denies that whatever happened didn't...

The more pissed the women that it happened TO will be. The slow drip-drip-drip of ongoing revelations from these angry women, who will refuse to see their sisters taken down individually, will torpedo Cain.

This really IS like Clarence Thomas, but the outcome will be different. Women of that time (that's me) remember Anita Hill being pilloried by the right for daring to speak the embarrassing truth. But people then- black and white- were so caught up with racial politics they couldn't see that Clarence Thomas was a buffoon. Thomas himself has taught many people (blacks included) to look beyond race. Heh.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:50 PM

Good point, Sig, about the other women. That may have been at least partly behind this "fourth woman" coming forward, so there may be more to come. Hopefully; if he gets buried under enough of them, and enough verifiable FACTS...oh, no, wait, I don't WANT the ultra-righties to give up on him, I want him NOMINATED! That would be SO much fun, what with his ignorance, ego and stumble-ability.

Seriously, tho', this is pretty disgusting. Apparently the name of the second woman who got a settlement is known by the media now, so HER life will probably become hell. That's a shame--Anita Hill went through quite enough, and now other women's lives will be affected. Damn these bastards. I would say something along the lines of "MEN!", but I know they don't represent you guys. It's just that once some men get a bit of power, it seems like the first thing their "brains" turn to is how to use it to get sex! And all too often, they succeed.

I hope they bring him down big time. That smirk makes me sick; thank gawd he's not running that ad here, so it only pops up in clips from pundits. So many people in this country are SO fucked up--and I don't mean him, he's only one example of many that have always existed--I mean the righties who are SO screwed up they'd nominate a dick (double entendre intentional).

Didja get the "brother from another mother" to the Koch's? And the APPLAUSE that it received? It all just makes me wnat to .


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Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:59 PM

And the Buffoon strikes again...

I just got to see this creepy sleazebag in person, complete with kinda subduded pimp-daddy threads, at a local diner populated by low browed, slack jawed, rightwingnuts who'd make our own Rappy feel at home - seriously, I felt the desperate need to take a goddamn BATH upon my return just from being that close to them, and the whole thing put me of a mind of one of them sleazy religious revivals run by some shyster with that cult of personality goin on, yeah, he has charisma up close and in person - but it's the kind where once you get some time, distance and space you kinda feel the urge to puke, there's a really, REALLY heavy "sleaze factor" which comes along with it - not that any of the (entirely white, mind you) adoring crowd of hate-radio koolaid chuggers seemed to notice or care but what do they ever care for reality anyway, right ?

I give him about two points over even me on the personal charisma thing since mine is certainly more understated, minus a couple on fashion sense, and then it goes into negative numbers quickly on policy and morality - stupidass ripoff tax plan aside, you do NOT want this guy in office - imagine a right-wingnut version of Clinton with suppressed race issues going on underneath the surface cause at one point he was kinda grinding his teeth upon noting ZERO people in the crowd who weren't righty-whitey wingnuts, all the more laughable to me being that he isn't, and they don't seem to REALLY care, so much as mindless obediance to "the cause" in a fashion straight out of the late 1930's.

He's a charlatan, a fraud, a smooth talking slime with a hefty heap on personal charisma and charm who has essentially nothing behind it but the iron fist of the same despotic fuckers behind Bush and Cheney - so essentially a right wing Clinton, only without Clintons intellect or ability.

No Sale.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:20 PM

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He's a charlatan, a fraud, a smooth talking slime with a hefty heap on personal charisma and charm who has essentially nothing behind it but the iron fist of the same despotic fuckers behind Bush and Cheney.
Yup, yup and yup...not to mention a mysogynist and possibly sexual harrasser. I say "possibly" because no actual proof has come out (yet), but it's pretty clear...

I'm kinda surprised you stuck around as long a you did, Frem! Did you catch his referring to himself with regard to the Koch brothers as "the brother from another mother"? He doesn't see any problem with that...what's that tell you?

NOW he's in trouble for calling Pelosi "Princess Pelosi" (not for the first time, according to reports). He finds nothing wrong in this; when asked why he's apologizing for saying it, his response was "So you guys will stop asking me about it". The man is, among many other things, totally clueless.

I don't think about him much and wish the news would shut up about him. He's ONLY in it, like Palin, to sell books and speaking tours, and that will become obvious soon enough.

What's truly sad is how the audience boooed even the QUESTION at the debate, and then cheered lustily at his "I'm a victim" answer. Something is truly wrong with the mentality of the right these days, and it's incredibly sad to see.


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Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:08 PM

Maybe this helps explain why Republicans are sticking by Cain, despite everything:

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Meghan McCain fascinatingly characterized the Republican primaries as akin to dating in that the electorate keeps having one fling after another in the hopes of avoiding the seemingly inevitable marriage to the boringly dependable Mitt Romney. Herman Cain has lasted too long to be called a fling, but the GOP’s ardor for him has blinded it to his obvious ineptness in almost every aspect on which you’d test a candidate (foreign policy, domestic affairs, likeliness to seduce voters outside the party, ability to deal with the media microscope, ability to cope with scandal). The only aspect that he does well is exude charisma, as if he’s the kid who doesn’t study but somehow charms the teacher into passing him.

The party’s love for him has not cooled despite a sexual harassment scandal he continues to handle poorly. (Justin Bieber is handling his nascent paternity scandal with more forthrightness, directness and crisis management wisdom than Cain did.) Cain seems to be surviving the scandal because the GOP truly likes him and because the party really has nowhere else to go but to Romney and because this is a rather tepid scandal compared to what we’ve grown used to from politicians (he abused power but there’s not even allegations of actual sex, so for most people it doesn’t really matter). But there’s also something else. The GOP’s relationship with Cain is more psychologically important than its relationship with any other candidate because Cain is that special thing: the party’s cool new Black friend. You ever see white people in the beginning stage of latching on to a new Black friend? They’re more excited because it’s something new and cool, a font of new thoughts and experiences. This isn’t simply racial: its the thrill of making a connection with someone unlike you who opens you up to new things, like a woman with a new gay friend.


Cain has to survive his still metastasizing sex harassment scandal and his many gaffes and his clear lack of competence, experience and serious intellect because the GOP is so excited about him that they are refusing to really kick the tires (or admit to themselves that when they kick the tires they prove flat). Because they know they need him. See, Cain feeds the myth that racism is over.

Some Obama critics feel they have been wrongly painted as racist for the crime of opposing Obama. Some of their critique has been racist, some has been reasonable, some has been unreasonable but what would be leveled at any Democrat. Either way, Cain offers absolution and liberation from feeling like a racist. For how can the party be racist if there’s a Black frontrunner? I think many in the party genuinely like him and are won over by his chutzpah and respect his journey from Morehouse to CEO. Fair enough. But the ascension of Cain does not prove that racism is over. Just because the party has a cool, new Black friend it’s excited about, doesn’t erase decades of condescending opinions and harmful policies toward Blacks.


Alas Cain, in particular, is not the best person on which to hang your proof that your party isn’t racist. A Black man who denies that racism has an impact on today’s world gives great comfort to people who wish for the race conversation, as opposed to racism, to be over. A Black man who thinks if you don’t have a job, it’s your fault gives comfort to those on one side of the class war. A Black man who wraps himself in minstrelish tropes, like wanting the Secret Service to call him Cornbread and breaking into song at campaign events, surely gives comfort to those who are still not comfortable seeing Blacks as Alpha men. A Black man who can lead in the polls for weeks without seriously convincing anyone that he’s going to win is like having your chocolate and not getting fat. Or getting the walk-on-the-wild-side thrill of dating a Black guy without worrying that you’ll ever be pressured to marry him.

Even if he’s

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Friday, November 11, 2011 3:53 AM


Well, color ain't got shit to do with it, hell I didn't even KNOW his ancestry till folks started makin such an issue of it, and the wingnut drones are such tools that they'd cheeringly support a fuckin Platypus if their masters told em to so I don't see why exactly it matters save for the fact that the GOP is indeed playing him for a token just as they do women since the ACTIONS of their party when it comes to legislation speak loud and clear and so I see him as in a fashion as ridiculous as an afro-american Klan member...

Mostly I wanted to see him up close personally since the opportunity was right there and I had homefield advantage, just like I did with McCain, only he pales even in comparison to McCains self-damning stupidity in lauding Nuclear Power to folks who were still pissed off about Fermi - twas only that the masters ordered it that got him any crowd at all around here.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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