Herman Cain: The Buffoon Strikes Again
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Thursday, November 17, 2011 14:45
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Cain is not helping himself. I guess he never got the message that you gotta have your shit tight in this world of 24-hour gotcha political news if you're gonna run for President. He's helping the Left Palinize him. Not that they wouldn't and weren't already, but now he's feeding them material.
There's nothing this committed media won't do to demonize Cain, or any front runner, in the GOP field.
Cain says nothing on this matter, he's covering up. He clarifies something, he's "changing his story ", and or breaking the non disparagement clause , or some such....
And of course, there's the classic Left wing claim... 'Cain is sooo stoopid, he makes Palin look smart.' Never mind his education and real world achievements, he's a conservative, and therefore, an idiot , by default.
It's the standard template the Left uses, with out fail, on any GOP candidate or public figure.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Cain is not helping himself. I guess he never got the message that you gotta have your shit tight in this world of 24-hour gotcha political news if you're gonna run for President. He's helping the Left Palinize him. Not that they wouldn't and weren't already, but now he's feeding them material.
There's nothing this committed media won't do to demonize Cain, or any front runner, in the GOP field.
Cain says nothing on this matter, he's covering up. He clarifies something, he's "changing his story ", and or breaking the non disparagement clause , or some such....
And of course, there's the classic Left wing claim... 'Cain is sooo stoopid, he makes Palin look smart.' Never mind his education and real world achievements, he's a conservative, and therefore, an idiot , by default.
It's the standard template the Left uses, with out fail, on any GOP candidate or public figure.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
So what else is new? He better wise up fast. Before this story broke, I saw him do an interview on MSNBC. They were nice to him during the piece, then when he left they started trashing him. Who sent him there, just like who gave MSNBC a Republican Debate to host? That alone made my skin crawl, et tu Brute? Don't you see, we are on course to lose again to Obama because our candidates can't stay focused, and our Party is terribly led.
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This is nonsense,
People are poking at him in the media because he does and says stupid shit,including suggesting that China is "trying to develop a nuclear capability"**, and including how he handled the scandal after given 10 days before the story broke to get his facts straight.
Of course I believe in innocent until proven guilty, so I wouldn't have Cain pilloried for something that is not factually proven, but good god,have some healthy skepticism. Money changes hands, a gag order exists, Cain says I did nothing wrong, or let me confront my accuser, you know...the one with the gag order, which I assume could be lifted by the accused party, and you guys say "SEE, all trumped up!"
Anyway, there is no reason at all to go after Cain from a Democratic party perspective, except that its funny and speaks loudly to the ridiculousness of the Republican pool of candidates as a whole. He is not going to be the front runner in the end, and it sounds like he's not even trying to be the candidate,
but as a disenchanted Obama "supporter," who plans on voting for him anyway, I can't think of a better gift than to have anybody but Romney on the Republican ticket.
I don't think Hero or even Auraptor could say with a straight face that Cain would not implode in a general election, so I'm assuming they're giggling like schoolgirls when they laud this man.
** since intent does matter, Cain may have been suggesting that China was looking to develop nuclear powered aircraft carriers...just wanted to clear that up incase the issue was just in the delivery
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, it's YOUR understanding that the NRA was 'Cain's company', and because he ran it, he could do pretty much as he pleased ? Really?
That's not my understanding of how a company runs, but apparently it IS Herman Cain's understanding that he can do pretty much as he pleases, at least when it comes to the female employees of the company!
I like how you keep comparing Cain to Clinton, though. I guess that means you have no problem at all with anything Clinton did, since you're so in favor of it when Cain does it.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Funny how YOU ignore the facts, when they don't fit your little fantasy.
There is no her. There is not one reported fact or allegation. We have a statement by ONE person, the one person that has come forward and said what happened...and that person is Herman Cain.
I'll take eyewitness testimony over NO testimony any day. Until you give me another witness there is only one story and that story is that nothing happened.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.
Well, let's see... we have two women - maybe more today - and at least one lawyer, and we have a settlement where one of the women was paid what Cain first described as an amount similar to "a normal severance package" - but which was then revealed to be a full year's salary (nice severance package!), and we have Republicans calling on Herman Cain to do away with the confidentiality agreements stopping his victims from coming clean about what really happened.
But you're right - there isn't a "her"; there are several.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Cain is not helping himself. I guess he never got the message that you gotta have your shit tight in this world of 24-hour gotcha political news if you're gonna run for President. He's helping the Left Palinize him. Not that they wouldn't and weren't already, but now he's feeding them material.
There's nothing this committed media won't do to demonize Cain, or any front runner, in the GOP field.
Next thing you know, they'll be calling him a Socialist. Or a Muslim. Or a Kenyan. Or claiming that he wasn't born here. Yeah, they'll do ANYTHING to demonize a front runner, won't they? That darned Faux News!
Oh, and incidentally, Cain is now claiming that Rick Perry's campaign is behind this controversy. Are you claiming that Rick Perry is part of a "vast left-wing conspiracy"?
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Cain says nothing on this matter, he's covering up. He clarifies something, he's "changing his story ", and or breaking the non disparagement clause , or some such....
Heck, I thought non-disclosure agreements were supposed to be binding on both sides. He wants to disparage his victims, they should be able to tell all.
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And of course, there's the classic Left wing claim... 'Cain is sooo stoopid, he makes Palin look smart.' Never mind his education and real world achievements, he's a conservative, and therefore, an idiot , by default.
I've yet to hear anyone make that claim. It's a well-known fact that NOBODY can make Palin appear smart.
Meanwhile, Cain really does not come across as a smart person, or one who is very informed when it comes to what's really going on in the world. Just today, he offered this rather startling admission of ignorance on China's nuclear capabilities:
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In an interview Monday, Cain said part of China's threat to the United States stems from its attempts to develop nuclear weapons -- even though China tested its first nuclear weaponin 1964.
"Yes, they're a military threat," Cain said on the PBS NewsHour, in response to a question from Judy Woodruff. "They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat."
So *I'M* not the one who's saying Cain's dumb. Cain's constant idiotic remarks and stupid "gaffes" are the ones saying he's dumb.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Whoops - now there's another one!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-harassment
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Meanwhile, Cain cancelled a press conference and tried to duck the press in Virginia today in an effort to try to avoid talking about his egregious past behavior.
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Separately, Chris Wilson, a former NRA staffer, told Oklahoma radio station KTOK that he witnessed Cain sexually harassing a woman at Virginia restaurant in the late 90s. Wilson said that while he could not discuss specifics of what happened, he believes if the woman were to talk about it "I think it'll be the end of his campaign."
Wilson confirmed the incident to Politico.
"It was very uncomfortable," he said.
Conservative radio host Steve Deace also told Politico that Cain said "awkward" and "inappropriate" things to his station's staff.
So I guess the association that Cain ran (the National Restaurant Association, not to be confused with the NRA) is part of this vast left-wing conspiracy, as well as conservative radio host Steve Deace.
Heck, maybe Cain's "awkward" and "inappropriate" comments were nothing more than the kinds of rape jokes John McCain likes to tell...
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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I think making inapropriate comments to females at work isn't as bad as rutting with your intern and then lying about it. A lot of men make slightly dirty comments. I don't like it when it happens but it isn't as bad as it could be. Do I want a guy who still does that being my president? Probably not, but maybe he's like other men and didn't get that he was being inapropriate. some men really don't get it. Maybe he hasn't had any more repremands about it since. I don't know enough about it to say one way or the other yet.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, it's YOUR understanding that the NRA was 'Cain's company', and because he ran it, he could do pretty much as he pleased ? Really?
That's not my understanding of how a company runs, but apparently it IS Herman Cain's understanding that he can do pretty much as he pleases, at least when it comes to the female employees of the company!
I like how you keep comparing Cain to Clinton, though. I guess that means you have no problem at all with anything Clinton did, since you're so in favor of it when Cain does it.
I have plenty of criticism with both what Clinton did, and then lying about it. It's the Left who turns a blind eye to it all, then shows pure hypocrisy by vilifying Cain for that which he HASN'T done.
You can try to twist this, and my views, any way you like, but you're only fooling yourself. Clinton had a history of philandering and lying. Cain has done none of it, and yet the media is crucifying him as if he were guilty. He's done nothing wrong, save for dare to challenge the great Obama. That alone appears to be enough of a 'crime' to convict a good man.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I have plenty of criticism with both what Clinton did, and then lying about it. It's the Left who turns a blind eye to it all, then shows pure hypocrisy by vilifying Cain for that which he HASN'T done.
I notice you have no criticism at all for Cain, though. In fact, you're - what was it you called it? - "turning a blind eye to it all", no matter how many times Cain changes his story or backpedals to try to "clarify".
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You can try to twist this, and my views, any way you like, but you're only fooling yourself. Clinton had a history of philandering and lying.
From the looks of things, Cain has quite a history in that department, too. I'm just curious why you think it was such a big deal when Clinton was doing it, but nothing at all when Cain was, or Gingrich, or any other Republican.
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Cain has done none of it, and yet the media is crucifying him as if he were guilty. He's done nothing wrong, save for dare to challenge the great Obama. That alone appears to be enough of a 'crime' to convict a good man.
Thing is, you don't KNOW that Cain hasn't done any of this. There was certainly enough merit to the charges to result in at least one settlement, which certainly indicates that he has SOMETHING to hide, right? Or are you simply going to take him at his word, a luxury you'd never afford to ANY Democrat?
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