Music for Serenity
POSTED BY: VeraJayne
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 05:15
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She understands, she doesn't comprehend
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Originally posted by Spookyjesus:
John Williams is shit.
John Williams writes cheesy music that is shit.
Hey, look, it's John Williams. Shit.
Anyone who thinks John Williams writes "cheesey shit" obviously doesn't understand music, and music theory, Ask any composer who is the best. They will all give you the same name. John Williams. When you say He writes shit, it shows your ignorance toward your knowledge of music. Pitty...
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I don't understand music theory and I'm tone deaf, however, I can hear and that's the only qualification one needs.
That said, saying John Williams is shit, isn't cool. He's written some of the greatest theme music, if not the the greatest music ever. (Hyperbole, probably, but Beethoven would be writing movie themes if he was alive today)
The problem with Williams recently would be exhibits A and B the first two Harry Potter movies. Williams score is both not very good and it's slathered over every scene, it's like he's trying to drown out the movie. Which might not have been such a bad idea, considering the movies. I'd assume this is Chris Columbus' fault, not Williams, but his name gets on the music. If his stuff gets used badly, he gets the blame. It would have ruined the movie if the movie hadn't already been disappointing.
Oh, yes, forgot the point. I'd say Greg E. is the way to go, he did us proud once. Joss also understands the use of music better than the average movie maker, or his shows seem like he does.
Dan
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John Williams writes cheesy music that is shit.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you too. The "Star Wars" theme was instrumental in the success of Episode 4. It's one of the defining sounds of our culture.
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The Star Wars theme is good as is the jurassic Park Theme and the Jaws theme -
my beef is that he writes music that sound like sound track music - could that be because he invented all the things that set music apart as being overtly sound track sounding? Yes. Is it cheesy to listen to? Yes.
I wrote those sentences just for the sake of putting John Williams and shit together (and look I just did it again) but what I meant was John Williams writes music that sounds like soundtrack music and that's not what I want in Serenity.
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Originally posted by Spookyjesus:
The Star Wars theme is good as is the jurassic Park Theme and the Jaws theme -
my beef is that he writes music that sound like sound track music - could that be because he invented all the things that set music apart as being overtly sound track sounding? Yes. Is it cheesy to listen to? Yes.
I wrote those sentences just for the sake of putting John Williams and shit together (and look I just did it again) but what I meant was John Williams writes music that sounds like soundtrack music and that's not what I want in Serenity.
I agree with you that a John Williams type score would be completely wrong for Serenity. When most people hear John Williams they think Starwars, JP and Jaws. While Starwars being a good score (The Empire Strikes Back especially) his better works include but not limited to: Superman*, E.T., Saving Priite Ryan, The Patriot, Harry Potter I, II, II, (Amazing scores, you should like the third potter score becase it's less london symphony orchestra sounding) and Catch me if you can. Those are just some off the top of my head. My point being is that even if you don't *like* his stuff...You should appreciate the excellence of it. By no means should John Williams be called cheesy. That is all.
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what would you all define the music on firefly as?
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i think that the music should be a mix of country and rock. but the theme song for the show firefly should be put in there too.
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Can anyone imagine the Star Wars credits rolling up without Williams theme?
I just think that different composers are suited to different genres and I think that with Firefly being in a genre all to itself - it literally is a Western in space as many theorists define the genre yet very few institutions actually follow (ok, I agree that made no sense) - I think it deserves a unique style of music all to itself, which it has. And a very good one at that.
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They need to put King Crimson on the soundtrack
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