Serenity - Lenore/Lovebot ?

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TWO

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Wait, what? Are you saying that the hands of blue are really robots? Sure maybe some of the more drone functioning ones may be, but are you saying they're all robots?

I don't think Inara is a love bot. But that reminds me of that Next Generation episode where we find out that Data's creator's wife is a android of her, not the original her. That was an interesting episode.

It is a wonderfully creative idea that the Hands of Blue are robots. But they are not.

As evidence I submit pictures from Serenity: Those Left Behind [2006] www.tfaw.com/Profile/Serenity-TPB%3A-Those-Left-Behind___203471

The Hands of Blue are unfeeling and steely on the outside -- on the inside, they are meaty and very un-robotic. Thanks to Captain Reynolds, we know them for what they are: barbeque.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

PENNAUSAMIKE

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:57 PM

Agreed that the Hands of Blue guys are not robotic,
They have to wear the Blue Gloves
(which are actually full body suits)
to protect themselves from the effects of their neural bleeder.

I had no problem with Lenore the lovebot because she is only slightly more realistic
than some of the lovedolls being made in Japan, now.
So 500 years in the future?
Yeah, Lenore fits in with the 'verse.

M52NICKERSON

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by InvaderChat:
And yes, those robots in the comic rather put me off too.

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

TWO

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

My vote for the worst Serenity comic is Serenity: Float Out [2010]. It had the entertainment value of a memorial service where the decedent's body is not in attendance, only 4 people show up, 3 of whom are complete strangers that look and dress like homeless bums, and the 4th arrives when the memorial is over and she is unrecognizable because she has gained so much weight and steals the champagne! (By the way, that is an accurate summation of the action in that comic.)

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

RIONAEIRE

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:52 PM

Oh good, if they were robots it would take away from their scariness and ominousness. They're much more scary as people, cold unfeeling evil people. That's one of the things that makes Firefly special, humans are good enough and bad enough in themselves, there don't need to be aliens to make it scary.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

MOOSE

Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

I am exactly the same way.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:06 AM

Originally posted by RionaEire:

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Oh good, if they were robots it would take away from their scariness and ominousness. They're much more scary as people, cold unfeeling evil people. That's one of the things that makes Firefly special, humans are good enough and bad enough in themselves, there don't need to be aliens to make it scary.

Agreed.

TWO

Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Moose:
I am exactly the same way.

Could it be that the comics allowed Joss Whedon to tell stories in ways that he should not?

TV puts limits on stories. In comics there are no boundaries of money. A comic like Serenity: Float Out could not be a TV episode because it has too many expensive sets, spaceships, crashes. And too many guest stars while the regular actors sit in their trailers all week because they are not in any scenes. FOX would have demanded it be rewritten so that it was more about familiar people than about all the different spaceships Wash flew.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

INVADERCHAT

Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:42 PM

I hope I got this quoting right...

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Originally posted by two:
Whatever the gizmo is that places a bomb inside Serenity, it is huge.

Well I always thought that the bomb was inside the OTHER ship and that the tendrils were just the way it joined on and created a circuit which, if broken, would blow the bomb.

But whatever, if you wanna imagine it as a robot I have no problem with that :P

Good point with your above post too, I even remember Joss saying somewhere that sometimes working within constraints like that improve writing 'cause you have to think of better way to work around. Very reasonable suggestion.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

The comics as a whole put me off. I tend to close my eyes and pretend they don't exist.

Yeah okay, good call :P
I TRIED to like 'em, after all they were a continuation of the verse in some way but I can't help but view them like a crappy movie adaption of my favorite book or something, they seem so out of touch with the series or even the movie.

And yeah, Somnambulist, Ariel was a core planet with all fancy shmancy stuff, they don't plonk hospitals with brain-scanning equipment on places like Persephone.

You should check out some of the robotic work going on today to get an idea of what would be possible, seriously as mentioned some of the Japanese stuff they have going is insane, and freaky as hell.

You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, September 1, 2011 2:32 PM

Originally posted by InvaderChat:

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And yeah, Somnambulist, Ariel was a core planet with all fancy shmancy stuff, they don't plonk hospitals with brain-scanning equipment on places like Persephone.

That was my reasoning. So I was inclined to wonder if there wouldn't be some sort of 'bot' on Ariel. I guess what I'm getting at is just how much future technology are we willing to accept in the Firefly verse? The 'Love bot' in SERENITY didn't seem out of place to me, though on reflection there really wasn't anything to support the idea of such things in the show. So I was curious how people felt about it?

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You should check out some of the robotic work going on today to get an idea of what would be possible, seriously as mentioned some of the Japanese stuff they have going is insane, and freaky as hell.

Very true. It's an interesting thing that has sprung up with their culture and some may say it borders on obsessive. It's the preoccupation with making them look human that I find intriguing.

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You're right about the look The Operative gives the bot though, definitely a 'wtf'. Hmm...

Yeah... That's what triggered my intitial thoughts... It's almost as though he isn't aware of such technology? Surely if he knew about robots he'd know they can hold information, so why upon his first visit did his men not destroy Lenore too. She is basically just a computer.....?

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